1 00:00:06,950 --> 00:00:03,830 yeah yeah 2 00:00:07,749 --> 00:00:06,960 hey this is another episode of ufo 3 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:07,759 garage 4 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:10,080 i'm ben and i'm joe and this is where we 5 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:11,519 talk about ufos 6 00:00:19,990 --> 00:00:17,440 aliens and all things weird 7 00:00:21,269 --> 00:00:20,000 what's up dude dude chilling man good 8 00:00:22,630 --> 00:00:21,279 that's good it's always good to be 9 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:22,640 chilling that is good 10 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:26,560 it's thirsty thursday thirsty thursday 11 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:30,000 what are you drinking i'm drinking wine 12 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:31,920 of it out of a box i got a little native 13 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:33,600 text in here [\h__\h] 14 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:36,719 bota box are you drinking water i don't 15 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:37,280 know 16 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:43,680 there you go the paranormal wine club i 17 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:46,079 don't know if that's a berries 18 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:49,440 it is now awesome oh hey we're gonna 19 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:50,879 have a fun show today 20 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:54,239 yeah yeah yeah so yeah i mean i get uh 21 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:55,920 lynn thank you so much for just like 22 00:00:59,270 --> 00:00:57,280 being available i 23 00:01:00,549 --> 00:00:59,280 i know we had uh tried to schedule 24 00:01:02,069 --> 00:01:00,559 something on friday something that came 25 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:02,079 up with me and then it was kind of like 26 00:01:05,429 --> 00:01:03,280 back and forth so 27 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:05,439 thanks for just yeah uh being down to 28 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:06,640 hang out with us tonight and 29 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:09,920 spend some time with us anytime yeah we 30 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:12,560 i've been checking out your show uh 31 00:01:17,429 --> 00:01:14,320 paranormal spirits 32 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:17,439 holy crap i think i watched i was just 33 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:18,720 telling you before we started but i've 34 00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:20,720 watched like every episode guys if y'all 35 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:21,920 haven't checked out 36 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:24,000 this show look it up on youtube 37 00:01:27,749 --> 00:01:25,920 paranormal spirits i 38 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:27,759 i mean it's if you have fun with me and 39 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:29,280 joe you're going to have fun with this 40 00:01:32,789 --> 00:01:30,079 show like it's 41 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:32,799 you guys just hang out talk about really 42 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:33,520 like 43 00:01:40,069 --> 00:01:37,920 you could probably explain it better 44 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:40,079 it's your show that's just fun you're 45 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:40,799 doing great 46 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:43,600 yeah uh and you guys have a have a nice 47 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:45,280 tasty drink so like 48 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:46,799 when did you guys wait when did y'all 49 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:48,479 start that has this always been like a 50 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:49,360 conversation 51 00:01:54,310 --> 00:01:53,520 did that start uh no i was bored during 52 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:54,320 quarantine 53 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:56,479 so i was just like um i need to do 54 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:57,520 something 55 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:59,119 so i did a couple of episodes and 56 00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:01,040 caitlyn was just like this is amazing i 57 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:02,479 love it and i was like great you can 58 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:04,079 come on it with me because we used to do 59 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:06,320 a podcast way back when together 60 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:08,239 so she was like absolutely and then it 61 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:10,080 just kind of snowballed from there 62 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,760 that is so awesome it started from 63 00:02:17,430 --> 00:02:13,520 boredom yeah 64 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:17,440 during quarantine they made me work 65 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:20,239 yeah i wasn't bored at all who's date 66 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:22,000 work you know the system work 67 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:23,920 dude the system people the people that 68 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:25,920 sit in those dark rooms smoking cigars 69 00:02:28,470 --> 00:02:26,400 they're like 70 00:02:29,589 --> 00:02:28,480 that'll keep the economy going yeah 71 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:29,599 we're gonna make that guy 72 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:32,879 joe go to work every single day what you 73 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:34,480 don't know is that there's thousands of 74 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:35,519 people that really 75 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:37,280 they're what they're waiting they come 76 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:38,640 up with things for you to do 77 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:43,830 what are we gonna do somebody gonna put 78 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:45,840 that nail out this driveway so you're 79 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:47,130 gonna have a flat tire 80 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,120 [Laughter] 81 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:51,680 yeah i heard that joe was gonna uh have 82 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:55,040 a relaxing evening this evening 83 00:02:59,509 --> 00:02:59,040 i don't think so do i have a plan for 84 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:59,519 him 85 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:00,720 dude have you heard that have you heard 86 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:02,239 that insurance commercial where they're 87 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:03,440 talking about they're like 88 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:04,560 they get a phone call and they're like 89 00:03:07,589 --> 00:03:06,640 hello and then they're like hi uh yeah 90 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:07,599 we have the mice 91 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:09,760 scheduled to uh eat the wiring in your 92 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:11,599 rv today at five o'clock and it'll be 93 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:13,440 catching on fire does that work for you 94 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:16,239 and they're like uh no can we reschedule 95 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:17,760 that and the whole insurance thing is 96 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:18,000 like 97 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:19,599 you can't predict when accidents are 98 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:21,840 going to happen it's always set up like 99 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:22,560 where they 100 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:24,159 purposely go out and screw with you 101 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:25,760 that's good it's a pretty good insurance 102 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:26,319 commercial 103 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:29,440 i like that i like that yeah so like 104 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:32,799 how do y'all how do y'all pick your uh 105 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:34,720 topics for the show i'm always curious 106 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:35,920 like what do you what 107 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:38,080 where's your ear to the ground with that 108 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:40,959 topic it's a lot of in-depth research 109 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:43,760 usually it goes this way okay we're 110 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:46,319 gonna film on such and such a day 111 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,560 such and such a day comes and one of us 112 00:03:55,030 --> 00:03:51,360 is like oh let's find some stories 113 00:03:57,350 --> 00:03:55,040 and that's what it is that's exactly 114 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:57,360 like 20 minutes before 115 00:04:01,990 --> 00:03:59,040 [Laughter] 116 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:02,000 like oh crap yeah my day to do stories 117 00:04:04,949 --> 00:04:02,640 yes 118 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:04,959 so sometimes like we'll send a text like 119 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:06,080 back and forth we 120 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:08,879 each won't read it till the next day so 121 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:10,720 it's exponential so like by thursday 122 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:11,360 we're like 123 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:14,799 hey did you see that thing yeah i think 124 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:17,919 now no man just pick one 125 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:19,440 that's so funny so we don't tell each 126 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:21,040 other ahead of time what we're doing so 127 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,639 one person we usually do like three 128 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:24,560 episodes at a time we film them 129 00:04:29,189 --> 00:04:26,880 and uh so like say if i'm the one 130 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:29,199 presenting the stories 131 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:30,720 caitlyn has no idea what i'm going to be 132 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:32,639 doing until we're filming 133 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:35,680 so okay i love that that's really cool 134 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:37,840 i love that we may have to riff on that 135 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:39,680 and yeah 136 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:41,919 you get the you know genuine reactions 137 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:43,120 yeah exactly 138 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:46,160 dude so so lynn for for i know a lot of 139 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:47,840 people know who you are but for people 140 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:48,960 who don't know who you 141 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:52,780 are and like what you do lin who are you 142 00:04:57,749 --> 00:04:54,479 [Laughter] 143 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:57,759 i'm an enigma um so i have 144 00:05:01,749 --> 00:05:00,160 i do the silly little channel on youtube 145 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:01,759 paranormal spirits but i also on 146 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:04,560 saturday nights i do spaced out radio 147 00:05:08,150 --> 00:05:06,800 um i do the space out radio saturday 148 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:08,160 show 149 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:10,639 um but before that i worked within the 150 00:05:14,469 --> 00:05:12,400 ufo community i worked for an 151 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:14,479 organization called free which is the dr 152 00:05:17,909 --> 00:05:16,080 edgar mitchell foundation for research 153 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:17,919 into extraterrestrial encounters 154 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:21,840 it's very long um so i basically helped 155 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:24,560 develop and run the experiencer support 156 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:25,440 program 157 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:27,039 so i got to talk with hundreds of 158 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:28,800 experiencers and that's kind of how i 159 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:29,680 got 160 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:31,199 involved with the community that was 161 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:32,880 really my my kind of start 162 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:36,240 in it after i had some weird experiences 163 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:37,280 i was talking to 164 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:39,280 i called that i called them up and they 165 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:40,960 didn't have an experience or support 166 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:42,800 program at the time so it actually ended 167 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:44,800 up talking to one of the founders 168 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:47,840 of the organization and um he found out 169 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:49,520 my background was in psychology and so 170 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:50,320 he was just like 171 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:52,960 hey i've got an idea would you like to 172 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:55,759 help develop this program and i was like 173 00:05:59,510 --> 00:05:58,160 sure i didn't know anything about ufos 174 00:06:01,350 --> 00:05:59,520 at that point in time i was kind of like 175 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:01,360 i just had this weird thing happen 176 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:04,479 um so yeah it was a 177 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:06,160 it was definitely a very quick learning 178 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:07,520 lesson so i had to like 179 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:10,240 dive right into it you know go down the 180 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:10,960 rabbit hole 181 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:12,479 and because i had to learn everything 182 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:14,080 really because you know i was talking to 183 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:15,120 so many people and there's so many 184 00:06:20,150 --> 00:06:17,199 different types of experiences so 185 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:20,160 yeah i learned everything oh man you 186 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:21,680 know like when it comes to like this 187 00:06:24,070 --> 00:06:22,160 whole 188 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:24,080 topic you know there's so much talk 189 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:26,720 about just like the actual like ufo 190 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:29,440 and craft and like videos and stuff but 191 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:29,919 for 192 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:33,199 us the our favorite part is 193 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:36,800 the experiencer themselves those stories 194 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:38,000 and like just 195 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:40,080 going through like we could spend hours 196 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:41,520 just listening and we have 197 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:43,680 spent hours just listening to people 198 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:45,680 tell their stories i mean it's just 199 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:47,680 that's the most fascinating part like to 200 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:49,280 this whole thing honestly 201 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:51,280 it really is and when i first started i 202 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,400 was kind of like 203 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:54,240 so you know coming from the background 204 00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:56,160 in psych like i used to be a therapist 205 00:07:00,070 --> 00:06:57,919 and so i just i 206 00:07:01,510 --> 00:07:00,080 go in very open-minded non-judgmental 207 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:01,520 like i don't know anything about this so 208 00:07:04,309 --> 00:07:02,560 i'm just going to listen to what these 209 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:04,319 people have to say and some of it 210 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:06,080 when you're first coming into all of 211 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:08,080 this you're kind of like 212 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:10,639 okay that's a little far-fetched but 213 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:11,360 they seem 214 00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:13,840 like they truly believe this so i'm just 215 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:14,800 gonna go with it 216 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:16,800 yeah and then like and there were 217 00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:18,560 strange things things that weren't like 218 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:19,599 super common 219 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:21,520 on the internet that you could find some 220 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:23,199 of them were just like very obscure 221 00:07:26,950 --> 00:07:25,599 experiences that they had and then i 222 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:26,960 ended up over the course of my time 223 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:29,120 working with them talking to about 300 224 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:32,160 experiencers and found that there were 225 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:34,080 people who had experiences in common 226 00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:35,280 those same kind of 227 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:37,599 obscure experiences and comments so that 228 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:39,680 at that point you're kind of like okay 229 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:46,469 oh hmm yeah there's a lot of dude 230 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:48,319 it's crazy how like there's there's so 231 00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:51,120 many differences in people's stories but 232 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:53,120 like there's like these underlying 233 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:54,240 commonalities 234 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:56,720 that take place you know it's it's 235 00:08:01,189 --> 00:07:57,520 really 236 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:01,199 see all that stuff so 237 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:04,639 so as a as a a a psych person like as a 238 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:06,479 psychologist right your background being 239 00:08:08,790 --> 00:08:07,280 psychology 240 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:08,800 are you judging ben and i right now i'm 241 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:10,560 so smart constantly 242 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:14,080 constantly we always think that like 243 00:08:16,309 --> 00:08:15,440 sometimes we'll have people on there 244 00:08:20,230 --> 00:08:16,319 like yeah we 245 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:20,240 we read uh your you know we can read you 246 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:23,199 and stuff we're like just judging us 247 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:26,160 right now so hard 248 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:28,960 no no not at all not at all like my 249 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:31,039 favorite experiences to talk to 250 00:08:35,750 --> 00:08:33,839 were like the really kind of like what 251 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:35,760 would be considered and i say this with 252 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:38,000 love and respect the wacky ones 253 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:39,919 right you know the ones that are like oh 254 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:41,919 i went to the galactic federation and i 255 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:43,839 worked with dragon beings and 256 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:46,480 you know this giant worm and i'm just 257 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:47,040 kind of like 258 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:49,920 tell me more like i just eat it up i 259 00:08:54,389 --> 00:08:51,040 love it 260 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:54,399 i know so for you how was it like 261 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:56,320 what are what are some things that like 262 00:09:01,990 --> 00:08:58,720 you you look for in people's stories 263 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:02,000 i mean it's it's it's right off the bat 264 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:05,279 you know it's totally sorry one of the 265 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:07,360 cats came had the nerve to come into the 266 00:09:10,949 --> 00:09:08,560 room 267 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:10,959 is that the chug going crazy right now 268 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:11,760 watching my 269 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:14,480 dojo and the old westy was following 270 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:15,440 what are we doing 271 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:17,839 yeah i can hear like a second pair of 272 00:09:23,350 --> 00:09:20,720 paw prints running after me 273 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:23,360 oh man so what are what are like some 274 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:24,800 things that you would you know 275 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:27,040 that you would look for i mean this this 276 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:27,920 field isn't 277 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:30,320 always full of the most honest people 278 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:30,959 all the time 279 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:33,279 you know how what's some some like cues 280 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:34,880 that you would get 281 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:36,720 and that would lead you to believe that 282 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:38,240 like i don't think this guy's really 283 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:40,000 telling the truth like red flags maybe 284 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:41,040 yeah 285 00:09:45,269 --> 00:09:43,519 well for me i kind of went with the 286 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:45,279 approach that it doesn't matter whether 287 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:46,160 or not i think 288 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:48,160 it's true if it's true to them then it's 289 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,279 true to me 290 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:51,839 um what i was doing when i sort of 291 00:09:55,030 --> 00:09:53,519 screened people was 292 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:55,040 using my psych background to make sure 293 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:56,880 there was no mental illness at play that 294 00:10:01,430 --> 00:09:58,720 maybe there was some psychosis or 295 00:10:02,389 --> 00:10:01,440 some sort of delusions going on yeah um 296 00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:02,399 because 297 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:04,000 the way the program worked was we hooks 298 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:05,440 them up with a mentor and these mentors 299 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:06,880 don't have psych training so we just 300 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:08,320 wanted to make sure they were i wasn't 301 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:09,760 like passing along someone that they'd 302 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:10,800 be like 303 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:12,800 no i do no idea what to do with this 304 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:13,839 like you know 305 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:16,560 like this makes no sense to me so that 306 00:10:19,829 --> 00:10:18,399 was kind of my role in it so 307 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:19,839 it was great in the fact that i got to 308 00:10:23,829 --> 00:10:21,600 talk to just about everybody 309 00:10:25,030 --> 00:10:23,839 um but yeah i was just really kind of 310 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:25,040 like 311 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:27,120 looking for is there something else 312 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:28,640 going on and 313 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:30,800 surprisingly i think there was maybe 314 00:10:33,829 --> 00:10:32,000 only one or two people 315 00:10:36,150 --> 00:10:33,839 that we had that issue with the rest of 316 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:36,160 them were absolutely great they were 317 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:37,920 totally normal people every day you know 318 00:10:40,069 --> 00:10:38,800 as you know you've talked to 319 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:40,079 experiencers and 320 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:42,399 yeah yeah it's great the analogy i like 321 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:43,760 to bring up too is as 322 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:46,560 i in my corporate job a few years back 323 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:46,880 we 324 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:51,120 graphic designer job 325 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:53,120 and that's like a normal person job i 326 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:54,720 guess you know a little on the creative 327 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:55,760 side but 328 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:59,279 you you still kind of have to uh 329 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:01,040 talk to these people before just you 330 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:02,320 know offering 331 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:04,399 them a job and and saying you know i 332 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:06,079 trust you fully with being a part of my 333 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:07,760 company and representing my company 334 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:09,680 not that you know the a podcast and a 335 00:11:13,910 --> 00:11:11,839 company are the same because it's 336 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:13,920 like we're all in it to to get to know 337 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:15,600 people and hear their stories like yeah 338 00:11:18,949 --> 00:11:17,360 i i align with that so much like it 339 00:11:21,910 --> 00:11:18,959 doesn't matter if i think if 340 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:21,920 it's true yeah i just yeah i i if you 341 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:22,560 believe 342 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:23,920 i love the way you said that if you 343 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:26,000 believe it's true like hey i'm 344 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:27,519 yeah we're here to listen feelings 345 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:29,440 mutual for sure yeah like 346 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:30,959 this corporate job i used to work at 347 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:32,720 it's like they're you're gonna get 348 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:34,880 some different personalities wherever 349 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:36,480 you go it's not just in the community 350 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:37,120 the 351 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:40,959 it's a 352 00:11:48,550 --> 00:11:47,680 sensitive at times but yeah uh that's 353 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:48,560 that's interesting 354 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:51,120 that the the screening thing me and joe 355 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:51,600 really 356 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:55,519 just like hey let's go 357 00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:58,320 i know like uh at like at my job when we 358 00:12:02,150 --> 00:11:59,600 screen people 359 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:02,160 it's usually like do you speak english 360 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:03,040 and it's like 361 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:04,720 his english is too good he's not gonna 362 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:07,120 work out he's just not gonna work out 363 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:08,560 he doesn't know what he's doing his 364 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:15,990 i don't know guys he spelled welding 365 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:19,200 action absolutely correct correctly 366 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:21,120 did you see how clean his shirt was i 367 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:22,320 don't think so i don't like him 368 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:23,760 did that guy just walk in with white 369 00:12:29,350 --> 00:12:25,920 nikes 370 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:33,110 oh it's great man i love it i love it so 371 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:34,720 alien girl what's up sorry i had to give 372 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:36,959 a shout out to haley girl 373 00:12:40,949 --> 00:12:39,360 little shout outs uh this live stuff is 374 00:12:43,650 --> 00:12:40,959 fun 375 00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:43,660 i'm like yeah my add is going like crazy 376 00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:45,600 [Music] 377 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:48,639 but uh yeah so um 378 00:12:51,750 --> 00:12:50,000 with with the show that you guys have 379 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:51,760 been doing like what 380 00:12:56,550 --> 00:12:54,800 you sent me this this this cryptid and 381 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:56,560 and forgive me if i don't remember the 382 00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:57,839 name but it was something like the 383 00:13:02,550 --> 00:13:00,800 choogies or something that uh hodag was 384 00:13:04,389 --> 00:13:02,560 like 385 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:04,399 oh no no no the puck wedgie that's what 386 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:11,350 that was awesome yeah i should do a 387 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:13,120 pukwudgie episode i haven't done that 388 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:13,760 yet 389 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:15,760 yes you were sending me the the 390 00:13:20,949 --> 00:13:17,360 description of it like 391 00:13:23,430 --> 00:13:20,959 i was cracking up like awesome 392 00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:23,440 like we're like oh how do you hear about 393 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:25,040 these like different cryptids and like 394 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:25,680 what's your 395 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:29,600 know what kryptos are 396 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:31,600 excuse you privits are the ones that i 397 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:33,440 know the least about 398 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:35,680 um so pakweyji's i've heard of because 399 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:37,839 they're supposedly native to 400 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:40,720 my area in massachusetts can we not 401 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:42,560 that's your favorite question 402 00:13:46,389 --> 00:13:45,600 yeah right a little wedgie don't mind 403 00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:46,399 her 404 00:13:50,389 --> 00:13:49,120 um yeah so they're native to this area 405 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:50,399 so i've heard about them 406 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:51,920 once i moved here because i'm not from 407 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:54,880 here um and i was just kind of like 408 00:13:58,230 --> 00:13:56,720 tell me more the name alone got me 409 00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:58,240 intrigued um 410 00:14:04,069 --> 00:14:01,519 but some of them to be honest my 411 00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:04,079 knowledge of cryptids would come from me 412 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:06,399 doing a google search of weird cryptids 413 00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:08,720 for a show and that's how i like i found 414 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:10,639 the hodag i had no i'd never heard of 415 00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:11,839 the hodag before 416 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:14,000 and i was like this is amazing i love 417 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:15,920 this creature i'll pick the one with the 418 00:14:24,710 --> 00:14:21,670 what's the weirdest thing i can find 419 00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:26,710 we don't well i guess we do like we've 420 00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:28,959 got we've got cryptids in our area i 421 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:30,000 mean we've got the 422 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:32,240 we've got the the dog man we've got the 423 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:33,680 chupacabra we've got 424 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:36,720 the we got bigfoot do we have the the 425 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:37,680 swamp is this 426 00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:41,760 uh swamp skunk or something like swamps 427 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:51,509 yeah that's like the like the the 428 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:53,600 bigfoot of the swamp right 429 00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:55,839 correctly yeah down in louisiana just 430 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:58,320 about a mile past texarkana 431 00:15:03,670 --> 00:15:01,440 yeah that's not we should 432 00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:03,680 that sounds familiar it is it's a that's 433 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:06,399 a uh 434 00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:07,920 backstreet boys no creatures clear water 435 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:15,269 just uh a mile past exactly 436 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:17,839 it's gonna be me that's it no that's the 437 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:23,110 much too cool for the backstreet boys 438 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:24,880 yeah 439 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:27,040 oh we were at south by southwest and we 440 00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:29,040 met joey for tone downtown my homeboy 441 00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:29,920 josh was like 442 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:32,079 he was like that's joyful tone and i was 443 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:34,320 like who's joey for tongue 444 00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:35,920 oh my god he's like a backstreet boy 445 00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:37,519 we're outside of this billiard 446 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:42,079 and he's like joey dude 447 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:43,920 he like ran up to him he was like joey 448 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:46,000 joey i got a picture 449 00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:47,600 he had his little kodak camera the 450 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:49,199 little remindable ones 451 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:50,800 he's great i bet he's still got a 452 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:52,320 picture he's got 453 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,680 i would totally be excited about meeting 454 00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:55,839 joey patone for all the crap i say about 455 00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:57,680 the backstreet boys he's hilarious 456 00:16:01,509 --> 00:16:00,079 i love him i'm psychotic sometimes when 457 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:01,519 i meet people like i'm always surprised 458 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:03,120 that people even want to talk to me 459 00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:04,720 but then again they don't see me kind of 460 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:06,079 out in the wild in my natural 461 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:06,800 environment 462 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:08,480 like yes last year when they were 463 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:10,560 filming qb halloween so i live right 464 00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:12,000 outside of salem and they filmed a lot 465 00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:14,160 of it in salem and like the day after 466 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:15,279 they were here 467 00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:17,680 i found out shaq was here and i was just 468 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:18,639 like 469 00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:28,480 where are you putting something up on 470 00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:31,199 instagram like a psychotic crazy person 471 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:32,959 like hey shaq where are you i'm in the 472 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:34,480 area like he's gonna be like oh 473 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:36,720 lynn's in the area oh let me go right 474 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:38,560 here yeah 475 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:40,399 seriously but i would totally be that 476 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:42,160 person i'd be like yo chuck what's up 477 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:44,560 you know if i saw him like he was just 478 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:45,440 like okay 479 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:48,399 little little crazy person you know you 480 00:16:53,510 --> 00:17:00,470 [Laughter] 481 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,790 i wonder if that tactic would work like 482 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:04,400 if you just act like you already know 483 00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:05,280 him like 484 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:08,880 dude long time no see i'm here at this 485 00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:09,600 place 486 00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:11,120 it's right behind the chucky cheese i'll 487 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:12,959 see you like i'm here for another 20 488 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:14,640 minutes like give him like a deadline 489 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:29,990 here all the time so i'll have to try it 490 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:36,390 you remember when you were in kazam i 491 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:38,640 love that damn movie 492 00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:42,000 it was a great movie hey so so living by 493 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,480 salem was that uh was that a a uh a move 494 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:48,000 that you made on purpose was that 495 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:49,200 calculated or was 496 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:52,160 like no it sort of happened by chance 497 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:53,520 like i've moved all over new england 498 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:54,400 while i've lived i mean 499 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:55,919 new england is like you know this big 500 00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:58,160 like massachusetts new hampshire 501 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:59,440 maine's pretty big but other than that 502 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,720 the rest of the states are all pretty 503 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:02,080 small so 504 00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,280 the clam state yeah yeah yes 505 00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:07,280 yes so yeah i actually live in a town 506 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:09,440 where a lot of the clans come from 507 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:13,120 oh yeah oh yeah are you are you a fan of 508 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,080 of clams 509 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:16,480 changing the subject i don't know do you 510 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:18,080 eat that or is it oysters you don't eat 511 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:19,120 clams right 512 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:22,720 i don't eat either either somebody tried 513 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:23,840 to tell me like yeah 514 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:26,160 you just you just you just kind of eat 515 00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:28,080 it right and you put like 516 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:29,679 some stuff i don't know what it was but 517 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:32,320 oh like an oyster yeah yeah forget giant 518 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:32,880 booger 519 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:35,280 why would i want that it was terrible it 520 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:36,320 was terrible 521 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:37,840 and it was like you know there's just 522 00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:39,600 way easier ways to get a boner than 523 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:40,559 eating this stuff i 524 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:45,039 i'm not a fan i'm not a fan at all 525 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,760 it wasn't even a purple in there i think 526 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:48,960 at that point i think at that point it's 527 00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:58,060 i'm so scared 528 00:18:58,070 --> 00:19:03,510 [Laughter] 529 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:05,190 if you're in a restaurant make you mad 530 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:06,720 imagine like shucking 531 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:15,029 how many times do you think uh those 532 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:16,880 like kitchen guys find like pearls in 533 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:17,440 there 534 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:18,960 oh and they keep them dude they keep 535 00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:20,160 them you think they do they just pop 536 00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:21,679 them in their pockets 537 00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:23,039 so like that's what they do like the 538 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,600 kitchen guy he shucks oysters for a year 539 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:27,520 that way whenever his anniversary comes 540 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,600 up he just gets a piece of fishing line 541 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:31,520 and strings the pearls up and his wife 542 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,390 gets a new set of pearls every year 543 00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:35,840 [Laughter] 544 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:38,559 she's like she's so thoughtful oh my god 545 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:39,760 pearl's every year 546 00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:41,360 i don't know how he affords this on his 547 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,750 yeah that's awesome man hey amanda 548 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:48,880 what's up 549 00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:53,200 amanda joe's wife in the building 550 00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:56,480 oh yeah we love 551 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:02,710 you guys are cute has joe ever uh gotten 552 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:03,280 you a 553 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,360 stolen uh pearl necklace 554 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:09,200 from working in a oyster restaurant 555 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:11,120 before 556 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:14,320 no no so 557 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:16,320 i mean so we were talking about salem 558 00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:17,600 salem yeah that's where we were 559 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:19,919 salem so living next to salem you got 560 00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,480 all this witchy stuff in the background 561 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:24,720 what's that what's that all about it's 562 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:25,679 not about lynn 563 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:32,630 i i have always had like 564 00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:35,520 the the like just so many questions 565 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,200 about witches we did this we did this 566 00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:39,120 halloween episode one day 567 00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,200 again we prepared it 20 minutes before 568 00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:43,039 the show 569 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,720 and we started just talking about it 570 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,400 we're like yeah witches 571 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,480 and then we noticed that we don't know 572 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:50,080 anything about witches 573 00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,440 except for the movie hocus pocus and and 574 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,440 and bewitched and that's that's 575 00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:57,440 literally it we're like i don't know 576 00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:59,840 some are cool some are not and they like 577 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,080 shake their noses 578 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:04,400 that's what we do in fact all day long 579 00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:05,360 yes it was a 580 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:07,039 yeah if anybody that's like into 581 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,720 witchcraft were to see that 582 00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:10,880 episode they would be so offended all 583 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:11,840 right 584 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,760 i'm gonna watch it now we try 585 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:17,440 we started out with the monsters theme 586 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:23,909 you'd be surprised most of us have a 587 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:26,000 sense of humor about it well that's good 588 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:27,120 that's good we were like dude they're 589 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:28,320 gonna hex us like 590 00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,960 at the end of this day like it's where i 591 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:32,640 got my beard from i just started curling 592 00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:33,850 facial hair like crazy 593 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,120 [Laughter] 594 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:40,080 so how does so okay so like what what i 595 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:41,440 mean 596 00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,080 totally ignorant on the subject what 597 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:46,480 type of witchcraft do you practice or is 598 00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:46,720 it 599 00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:56,480 um well one thing a lot of people 600 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:57,520 confuse 601 00:22:01,590 --> 00:22:00,240 it's even within the witchcraft 602 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,600 community too and i've i 603 00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,360 i've been doing it for like 20 plus 604 00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,880 years at this point 605 00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,400 is the difference between wicca and 606 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,320 witchcraft so wicca is more of the 607 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:10,000 religion it's more of a spiritual 608 00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,200 practice whereas 609 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:13,520 craft itself is actually just that the 610 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,840 craft it's the spell work it's 611 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:17,440 you know all of the things you think of 612 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,280 when you think of a witch 613 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:21,600 that's witchcraft and so i've never been 614 00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:23,280 wiccan i've never been one that really 615 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:24,880 works with deities 616 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,700 um so most of the time i've been 617 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:28,960 [Music] 618 00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:30,799 most witches really are just eclectic 619 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:32,000 which is because we take a little bit of 620 00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:33,520 this and a little bit of that 621 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,159 um but i usually refer to myself as a 622 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:38,000 luciferian witch which i know sounds 623 00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:39,120 very scary 624 00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,159 but basically allah luciferian is so 625 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:43,919 lucifer in the bible was 626 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:46,240 the bringer of light and so luciferian 627 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,679 simply means that you read and you 628 00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,200 educate yourself and you 629 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,039 strive to kind of elevate your own 630 00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:53,120 intellect and that's all it means 631 00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:54,559 there's nothing more than that 632 00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,440 um so some loose fairings work with the 633 00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:58,880 angel lucifer i do 634 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:01,039 some don't that's cool too some are just 635 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:02,320 very strictly 636 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,840 don't work with any deities don't i mean 637 00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:05,360 i don't consider lucifer a deity some 638 00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:06,559 people do but 639 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:07,919 um they just don't work with any 640 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:10,400 necessarily like spiritual beings 641 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:13,760 so yeah i'm a luciferian witch 642 00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,320 so is is stevie nicks really a white 643 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:17,679 witch 644 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:20,159 i guess i don't know her personally i've 645 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,840 heard i mean she has admitted to being a 646 00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,039 witch but i don't know 647 00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:26,159 what kind of which she is so how many 648 00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,799 different kinds 649 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:28,159 i mean i guess you just kind of explain 650 00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:30,559 that but like what types of witches 651 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,240 are there like are there different kinds 652 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,840 i mean there's got to be a lot 653 00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,200 oh there's a million different kinds 654 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,679 yeah so you don't have to name them all 655 00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,760 yeah yeah let's sit back for an hour 656 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:41,279 while i name them all off 657 00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:44,640 the top top um oh gosh 658 00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:47,840 um well there's green witches which is 659 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:49,520 like if i wasn't luciferian i would be 660 00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:50,960 considered a green witch because i work 661 00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:51,919 with a lot of like 662 00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:58,630 oh i think we lost her um we lost you 663 00:24:03,110 --> 00:23:59,840 for a second 664 00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:03,120 oh sorry okay so i so i work with a lot 665 00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,000 of herbs and plants 666 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,760 so it would also be considered a green 667 00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:07,120 witch that's what that means it's just 668 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,480 someone who works with herbs and plants 669 00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,000 a lot in their practice 670 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,159 um then there's a kitchen witch somebody 671 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,559 who just does it more practically like 672 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:16,400 as they're going about their daily life 673 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,880 you know 674 00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,480 it could be like while they're cooking 675 00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:21,039 they infuse it with certain energies or 676 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,559 you know it's just kind of like they'll 677 00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,240 use things like from their spice cabinet 678 00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:26,000 that they already have in their kitchen 679 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,919 so that's kind of like a very general 680 00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,360 description of what a kitchen which is 681 00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,200 then you can have 682 00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:34,080 um well there are the different 683 00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,679 traditions if you want to get 684 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,240 more formal and those usually you have 685 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,320 to have some formalized training by 686 00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,760 these particular groups like 687 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,600 gardnerian witchcraft and alexandrian 688 00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:45,200 witchcraft um 689 00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:47,279 but there's not as many of them anymore 690 00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,640 as like when i first started out there 691 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,320 was a lot more of those groups but 692 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,960 now everybody's fairly eclectic for the 693 00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,080 most part 694 00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:56,400 and then you have what some people call 695 00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,600 gray witches 696 00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:59,600 which i would be considered a gray which 697 00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:01,760 is someone who 698 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,200 isn't necessarily what you would call a 699 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:05,760 white witch they aren't like a 700 00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:07,840 a dark witch whatever you want to refer 701 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,960 to that as 702 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,720 um which is also referred to as the 703 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,720 right hand path and the left hand path 704 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,480 now gray which practices either or 705 00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,240 depending on the situation so it's just 706 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,679 kind of like 707 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,840 you know i wonder if if a dark witch 708 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,600 would ever admit publicly that she's a 709 00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,039 dark witch i feel like a dark 710 00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:25,120 witch would be like slytherin like 711 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,080 almost like 712 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:28,799 they wouldn't like they wouldn't really 713 00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:30,080 like advertise yeah 714 00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,960 you know some do um and it just depends 715 00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:34,799 like usually if you're doing that kind 716 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,440 of 717 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,760 work you're not gonna be telling anybody 718 00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:38,799 unless like 719 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:40,159 sometimes there are some wishes who 720 00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,640 absolutely refuse to do any type of work 721 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:44,480 that could be considered harmful to 722 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,440 someone else 723 00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,960 yeah and so usually then they would come 724 00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,799 to someone like me and be like hey 725 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,799 i'm having this problem can you do this 726 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:52,480 so i don't have to do it 727 00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:55,760 um so okay you know in that kind of 728 00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,440 situation like you're usually not 729 00:26:02,950 --> 00:25:59,440 advertising what you're doing 730 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,960 um but yeah some some some people are 731 00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:04,320 free about it they don't care they'll 732 00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:05,679 just be like yeah 733 00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,640 yeah i knew it so i would probably be a 734 00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:10,400 green witch dude i work with herbs all 735 00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:10,870 the time 736 00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:14,400 [Laughter] 737 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,000 and my wife would be a kitchen witch 738 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,840 because she makes one hell of a chicken 739 00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:18,960 fried steak 740 00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:21,039 there you go absolute witchcraft i i 741 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:22,640 don't understand it 742 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:29,430 so i think i think the word magic and i 743 00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:30,320 mean we talked about 744 00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:32,480 luciferian i mean i think that word just 745 00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:34,960 has such gravity and weight to it 746 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:38,080 somebody who's not really uh 747 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,760 that hasn't done any research which i 748 00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:41,360 mean i'm not saying that i have it all 749 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:41,679 but 750 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:45,440 i'm i'm definitely open to just hearing 751 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:48,320 uh people that are that have been 752 00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:49,520 studying it for a while their 753 00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,919 explanation of what that means because 754 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,279 there's such a stigma to 755 00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:55,600 to to words uh words have power and i 756 00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,559 think that's 757 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:59,120 the whole backbone of witchcraft in 758 00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,240 itself is that words 759 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:02,240 you know you call we when you spell a 760 00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,840 word what are you really saying we're 761 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,240 spelling 762 00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:08,640 the spell right i think i might have 763 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:09,679 stole that from you 764 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,880 so that might sound familiar but but 765 00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:14,799 yeah like maybe explain what that means 766 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:15,520 to be like 767 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,640 this magic and what it really means well 768 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,559 all it really is like the very 769 00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,480 fundamentals of witchcraft 770 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,120 is just energy work it's your intention 771 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:27,120 and we tap into the natural energies 772 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,760 around us 773 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,760 so if you're say a green which you're 774 00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:31,440 using the energies of the different 775 00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,760 plants and herbs and flowers and they 776 00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:34,799 all kind of have their 777 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:38,640 own um specialties i guess would be a 778 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,840 good way to you know describe like 779 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:41,600 rosemary is good for protection but it's 780 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,279 also good for bringing money in 781 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:45,360 um you know so each plant kind of has 782 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,200 its own like correspondences and so you 783 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:48,880 would tap into that energy just to 784 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,520 enhance 785 00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:51,600 your own energy but really you're just 786 00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:53,120 tapping into kind of 787 00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,799 the most generic way i could say is 788 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,480 universal energy the energy that's all 789 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:58,000 around us because we're all made up of 790 00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:58,799 energy like 791 00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,559 essentially that's all we all are that's 792 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,000 all everything is 793 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,080 and so witches have just learned how to 794 00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,480 tap into that energy and channel it 795 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,399 to do whatever it is that they want to 796 00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,320 do so it's your intent 797 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:12,080 that channels the energy that's the 798 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,440 basics of it all 799 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:15,440 so so you're not saying like not all 800 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:16,559 witches like 801 00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:19,120 in the movies they they conjure a demon 802 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,679 spirit 803 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:22,000 like it's not all like that right well i 804 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:22,880 mean i do 805 00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:26,240 but oh okay well there you go some do 806 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:28,080 some some do work with you i have worked 807 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:29,840 with some some demons but not 808 00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,080 in that sense like you're thinking so 809 00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:34,080 demons are basically just spirits as 810 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,919 well they're entities as well 811 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:37,600 and they actually like they really 812 00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,360 fascinate me but i'm kind of a weirdo 813 00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,279 you guys already know this so like 814 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,279 i'm just fascinated by demons i'm always 815 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:44,880 like where do they come from who are 816 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:45,360 they 817 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,880 always loved you 818 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:51,200 i knew me too me too i was actually 819 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,000 talking to 820 00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:54,159 a fairly well-known demonologist 821 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,279 yesterday like 822 00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,960 he happened to make the mistake of 823 00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:58,720 messaging me like hey i would like to be 824 00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,760 on your show i was like 825 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,919 oh really let's chat and have him on 826 00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:03,600 like you know messenger for like three 827 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,350 i was like um is todd from pizza hut i 828 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,200 mean like i don't 829 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,760 really know i didn't really know who you 830 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:18,960 were i just happened to 831 00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,799 choose a number this pizza is called the 832 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:22,799 pentagram pizza 833 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:26,640 voila funny enough in salem we do have 834 00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,120 a restaurant called flying saucer pizza 835 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:31,520 i like it delicious i like it 836 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:34,799 yeah yeah so um yeah so 837 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,840 i can't even remember what we were 838 00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,520 talking about no contouring demons oh 839 00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:39,039 yeah no most of it is pretty 840 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:41,520 like you know it's like a lot of like 841 00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:42,559 candle magic 842 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:45,760 or um making oils or you know 843 00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:48,640 it's pretty mundane it's not like crazy 844 00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,520 wild stuff 845 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,360 so we always think of like demons as 846 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:53,200 being like this like kind of scary 847 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,080 negative thing 848 00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,320 like are like some demons cool and it 849 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:57,760 just so happens that they're called 850 00:30:00,870 --> 00:30:00,320 demons you know like they are and i 851 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:00,880 always say 852 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:03,200 like i think demons are stereotyped as 853 00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,480 to being all bad which 854 00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,559 like we wouldn't say that about any 855 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:08,799 other species if we want to call them a 856 00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:09,760 species 857 00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,240 that every you know being in that 858 00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:14,399 species is negative or evil and so i 859 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:16,000 think the same goes with demons 860 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,520 i've worked with some that are great i 861 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,120 mean the 862 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,360 my experiences is usually the lower 863 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:22,799 level demons because they have kind of a 864 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,760 hierarchy 865 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:25,279 so the lower level demons are the ones 866 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,399 that are kind of like the mischief 867 00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,679 makers they're going to be the ones that 868 00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:29,600 are causing all of the trouble 869 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:32,880 um and they do feed off of energy so 870 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:35,360 it's kind of like would you consider the 871 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,399 lion 872 00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,159 evil because it ate the antelope well 873 00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,080 the antelope probably would 874 00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,000 but the lion's just trying to survive so 875 00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,480 in this scenario we're the antelope 876 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,799 so they're really just they feed off of 877 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,399 energy and sometimes 878 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,720 that energy is fear fear-based energy 879 00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:52,960 because it's a very strong emotion right 880 00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,080 so i i don't necessarily look at them 881 00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:58,640 as evil granted it's not great a lot of 882 00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,399 the things that some of them do 883 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,880 not like saying yes that's awesome that 884 00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,240 she was possessed 885 00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,640 um you know like i definitely would help 886 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:08,080 someone out in that situation 887 00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,760 as witches we kind of know how to do 888 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:11,600 that and specifically like someone like 889 00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,080 me who 890 00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:15,279 has worked with demons i know how to say 891 00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,559 okay it's time to move along now um but 892 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:20,320 no they're not all bad like some of them 893 00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:21,919 are very cool some of them have 894 00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,640 like really interesting traits and kind 895 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,840 of similar to what i was saying with 896 00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:27,200 plants like there are certain demons 897 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:29,039 that have certain affiliations like 898 00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,600 say you want you know help with uh 899 00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,960 gaining more knowledge about plants 900 00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:36,640 there is a specific demon that is good 901 00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,960 at 902 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,120 like helping you gain more knowledge 903 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:40,880 about plants in the natural world around 904 00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:41,519 you 905 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:45,279 already addressed this but the 906 00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,240 difference between 907 00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,039 i mean again we stated this before like 908 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:50,720 words or words it's just like 909 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,760 we're trying to like use telepathy 910 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,760 basically when you say a word you're 911 00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:57,760 trying to make my thought into your head 912 00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:59,519 so the best i can do is angels and 913 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,200 demons good and bad right 914 00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:03,440 and i think what we're inching towards 915 00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:05,200 here right now is just like 916 00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:06,799 maybe it's a little bit more complicated 917 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:09,279 than that so so in your perspective like 918 00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,600 you mentioned that demons are more of 919 00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,360 the fear-based energy 920 00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:15,679 so what would be the opposite of of that 921 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:16,399 and what 922 00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,679 what physical uh representation 923 00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,440 would that be or maybe i don't know 924 00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:23,679 consequential representation because i 925 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,880 feel like the fear-based 926 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:26,559 interview and you know evil would be 927 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,960 like death and the other one would be 928 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:29,760 like 929 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:35,039 the the negative energy is more 930 00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:36,159 transactional 931 00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,960 versus the uh the positive energy is 932 00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,159 just oh just it just 933 00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,880 happens like yeah i don't know i could 934 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:44,000 see why you would think that but 935 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,360 actually if you think of it 936 00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:47,039 if they're if they're feeding off of 937 00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,799 that fear-based energy and it doesn't 938 00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:50,640 have to always be fear but that's just a 939 00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:51,760 very common one it's an 940 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,360 easy one if you think like spirits 941 00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:54,880 sometimes will feed off of fear energy 942 00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,600 too because 943 00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:57,440 it's very easy for a spirit to scare the 944 00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:58,640 heck out of one of us because we can't 945 00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:00,480 see them and demons in the same way 946 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,919 but in my experience like death is not 947 00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:05,440 the end game for a demon because it's 948 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:08,240 eliminating its food source now so it 949 00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:09,519 kind of would be 950 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,360 counter-intuitive for the team to do 951 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,440 that and some people think like 952 00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:15,360 angels are all good demons are all bad 953 00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,799 but there are some angels that are kind 954 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:18,240 of like 955 00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,440 i don't know if you guys swear on here 956 00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:21,600 but they're not the greatest yeah 957 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,360 oh we're not monetized so we could say 958 00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,960 whatever the [\h__\h] okay there's some 959 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:26,559 angels that are just dicks like they 960 00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:27,360 really are 961 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,519 like some of them are just and some of 962 00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:31,279 them are really scary 963 00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,919 so people have this idea that angels are 964 00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:35,919 all like sweet and nice and gentle and 965 00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:36,559 they're not 966 00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:38,159 i mean angels if you look also in the 967 00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:39,679 bible angels are warriors 968 00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:42,000 there's people who saw them were afraid 969 00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,039 of them 970 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:45,519 yeah they have like four faces yeah 971 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:46,799 they're crazy like 972 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:48,880 ten eyes and all kinds of trees like 973 00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:51,840 fire like the seraphim are all crazy 974 00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:54,159 yeah man yeah i've seen some photos and 975 00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:55,039 like man 976 00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:57,440 i would like dude if that showed up in 977 00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,159 my room 978 00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:00,240 like i would be just as scared if it was 979 00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,200 a demon or an alien or like whatever 980 00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,519 it is like sometimes i think like maybe 981 00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:07,600 even my priest doesn't know this right 982 00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:08,560 like 983 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:11,919 i grew up 984 00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:15,760 in a really really like mexican catholic 985 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:18,639 like you know catholic catholic you know 986 00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,200 and so 987 00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,960 like i think i always think about that 988 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:22,240 i'm like 989 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:25,440 did like does he know about this 990 00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:27,760 he does they never they never they never 991 00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:28,639 told us that 992 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,119 like you know right yeah it's it's so 993 00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:33,280 like it's very misinforming 994 00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:35,839 if a little upset if an angel or demons 995 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,879 showed up in your room 996 00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:39,440 they would say one thing hey dude can i 997 00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:41,919 can i hit that 998 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:44,800 what are you doing is that is that cash 999 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:45,839 or not 1000 00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:48,879 so what is what is the difference in 1001 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,560 like or is there a difference is this 1002 00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:52,079 just a regional thing like 1003 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:54,879 is there a difference in like gin and 1004 00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:55,200 like 1005 00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,320 similar but 1006 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,560 also different like yeah yeah they're 1007 00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,320 similar but different like because 1008 00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:04,079 a lot of people consider gin like 1009 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,440 difficult to work with 1010 00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:08,000 they can be very mischievous they can be 1011 00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:08,880 what we would call 1012 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,440 harmful like a demon could be um i put 1013 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:13,040 that in quotes like it's not like 1014 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,760 harmful 1015 00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,280 like when somebody's possessed it's 1016 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:17,599 harmful um 1017 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:20,320 it's not great again not condoning that 1018 00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:21,440 so gin can be 1019 00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:24,560 very difficult and they usually if you 1020 00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,400 have grown up working with chin and you 1021 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:28,000 know how to handle gin 1022 00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,680 similar to demons if you know how to 1023 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:31,760 handle demons it's okay to work with 1024 00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,320 them 1025 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,000 but you have to have kind of that 1026 00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,760 knowledge and that relationship with the 1027 00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,440 gin so in some ways yes they are 1028 00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:39,440 considered very similar but they are 1029 00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:42,560 separate entities in my opinion so are 1030 00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:42,880 they 1031 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:50,079 a separate totally separate thing you 1032 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:50,400 know 1033 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,160 like they yeah i mean from what i've 1034 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,760 heard i've never tried working with the 1035 00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,440 gin just because i don't have that 1036 00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:57,119 relationship with them but what i've 1037 00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,640 heard from other people 1038 00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,160 is that yeah they can be difficult to 1039 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,680 work with you have to know what you're 1040 00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:02,800 doing just like 1041 00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:05,280 i wouldn't recommend you know that like 1042 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,880 someone who's been practicing witchcraft 1043 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,839 for a year or 1044 00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:09,440 even five years or ten years start 1045 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,960 working with demons like you have to 1046 00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:12,240 know what you're doing you have to 1047 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:14,320 really research it and educate yourself 1048 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,760 and know how to go about it and i think 1049 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,760 the gin is the same way and the gin are 1050 00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:19,200 actually more regional they're usually 1051 00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,000 found more in 1052 00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:22,000 the middle east middle east yeah yeah so 1053 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:23,520 think of a gin is similar to like a 1054 00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,160 genie 1055 00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:26,880 like that's kind of the feeling that a 1056 00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:27,359 gene 1057 00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,400 like a gin yeah gin genie um but like a 1058 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:32,000 very mischievous genie 1059 00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,839 someone that's like you're gonna make a 1060 00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:35,839 wish okay let me twist that around 1061 00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:38,839 and make it you know like [\h__\h] for you 1062 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,950 so i i heard this story and i don't know 1063 00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:54,880 how accurate it is maybe you can fill me 1064 00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,240 in with it but there was a 1065 00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:58,640 i guess i'm talking about the gin and 1066 00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,280 stuff 1067 00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,839 there was a point where god had said to 1068 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:03,599 his angels i i 1069 00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:06,400 i've created the perfect creation which 1070 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:07,520 is human 1071 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:10,240 and you all bow down to them and the 1072 00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:11,680 angels said yes 1073 00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:13,599 and the gin were like i don't really 1074 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,280 know about that and they 1075 00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:17,680 kind of walked the earth and kind of 1076 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:18,400 caused 1077 00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:20,160 these little mischief you know and 1078 00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:21,920 caused trouble and stuff i don't know if 1079 00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,480 like that story how accurate that is but 1080 00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:27,359 i haven't heard that i mean that maybe 1081 00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:28,079 um 1082 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,680 you know the quran may have stories 1083 00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,520 about the jinn which i'm not familiar 1084 00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,520 with like i do know the bible because 1085 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:35,280 um a lot of people find this really 1086 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:37,119 strange but i was actually in seminary 1087 00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,800 for a while because i just find religion 1088 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:39,920 fascinating 1089 00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,040 so i was in an old catholic seminary and 1090 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:45,119 yeah i know most people like and like 1091 00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:46,480 part of the reason i joined was because 1092 00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,680 i wanted to learn about 1093 00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,599 the ritualistic side of christianity the 1094 00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:51,359 his i find history fascinating in 1095 00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:52,000 general 1096 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:53,599 so i wanted to learn more about history 1097 00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:56,000 and um and about demons from their 1098 00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,200 perspective 1099 00:38:02,069 --> 00:38:00,320 and um that is actually the story of 1100 00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:02,079 lucifer what you just said 1101 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,760 was that god created humans and said 1102 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,440 this is my greatest creation ever and 1103 00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,680 if you think about it i mean are we 1104 00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:09,119 really like 1105 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:12,720 angels are fairly superior in my opinion 1106 00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:14,240 in their abilities 1107 00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,640 we're kind of [\h__\h] like so lucifer 1108 00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,000 was like uh no i'm not 1109 00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:20,160 bowing down to these creatures sorry i 1110 00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,680 came first and i 1111 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,359 have so much more power than they do why 1112 00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,440 should i be bowing down to them 1113 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,079 and he also wanted to impart knowledge 1114 00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,320 to humans as well and so 1115 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,720 that was one of the reasons that god 1116 00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:34,400 cast lucifer out because he was like 1117 00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:36,079 whoa whoa whoa you're telling them way 1118 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,599 too much uh 1119 00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:39,839 absolutely not we can't have this um 1120 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:41,119 they're my greatest creation but we 1121 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:42,320 gotta keep them ignorant 1122 00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:44,160 right it's kind of like my 1123 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:45,920 interpretation of it's probably not 1124 00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,720 accurate 1125 00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:48,960 for me i've always had an issue with 1126 00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:50,240 that as well 1127 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:53,359 like uh like you know it's like well 1128 00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:53,680 this 1129 00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,200 like is it just like 1130 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,960 it's like a subservient thing it's like 1131 00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,400 i'm going to create you but you can't 1132 00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:01,680 know anything 1133 00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:04,240 right and it's like just trust me like i 1134 00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,359 don't know about that 1135 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:07,599 like yeah i don't know about this guy i 1136 00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,440 don't know about this guy satan either 1137 00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:11,680 right yeah but like you know it seems to 1138 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:12,800 be a little tricky 1139 00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,920 as well like we had this 1140 00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,680 involved with either at the same time 1141 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:19,359 that that sentiment of like hey just 1142 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,720 trust me like that's 1143 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,240 one of the beautiful qualities of 1144 00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:24,240 religion and that's why it works for so 1145 00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,440 many people because if you could just 1146 00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,119 surrender yourself and just fully 1147 00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,359 believe and know that you're 1148 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,440 there's some there's just some energy 1149 00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,880 looking out for your best interest at 1150 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:33,839 all i mean 1151 00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:36,400 man i i i think that's beautiful so i 1152 00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:37,839 mean i just i feel like i had to say 1153 00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,480 that 1154 00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:40,240 no absolutely i have nothing against her 1155 00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,920 like i said i i think religions are 1156 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,040 fascinating and 1157 00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,640 christianity like i grew up in a 1158 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,160 christian household like we were 1159 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:48,079 we were like holiday christians you know 1160 00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:49,599 like oh it's easter it's time to go to 1161 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,160 church 1162 00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:52,400 is that kind of a christian yeah so it 1163 00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:53,280 wasn't like 1164 00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,720 a very strong christian household but um 1165 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:58,400 yeah i think you know people who find 1166 00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:00,000 comfort who find 1167 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,480 healing or who find just that like sense 1168 00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,079 of peace through their religion then 1169 00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:06,000 that's great it works for them it's just 1170 00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:07,520 not my thing but 1171 00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:09,839 i also am kind of a weird enigma even 1172 00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,160 within the witchcraft community because 1173 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,960 i do work with a christian entity 1174 00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:16,720 lucifer is technically a christian 1175 00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:17,839 entity like there are 1176 00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:20,400 theories that lucifer was also known by 1177 00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:21,920 other names in older 1178 00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:25,119 civilizations but 1179 00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:26,560 so here's the thing most people don't 1180 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,119 know lucifer was never specified to be 1181 00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:31,040 the devil in the bible 1182 00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:32,319 there was a pope that made that 1183 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:34,160 connection yeah i thought 1184 00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:35,520 nowhere it says in the bible that 1185 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:37,359 lucifer is the devil right 1186 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:39,680 and the word the devil uh didn't it 1187 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,040 derive from some other 1188 00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:43,680 like it wasn't actually in in in hebrew 1189 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,720 like that's not a 1190 00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:47,280 hebrew word like no it's like marijuana 1191 00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:48,480 they don't believe in the devil they 1192 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,359 have no devil 1193 00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:51,520 right religion from my understanding 1194 00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:59,030 i remember i was watching uh i was 1195 00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,560 watching the show vikings 1196 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,160 right and i was like i love that show i 1197 00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:05,440 know i do too and i was watching it at 1198 00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,760 my parents house and and there was this 1199 00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,920 the scene where they're all painted up 1200 00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,920 and they have like this blood you know 1201 00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:13,520 and they're drinking it like out of a 1202 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,000 skull 1203 00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:16,400 and there's all this fire and stuff and 1204 00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:17,839 my mom and she was like 1205 00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:19,839 she was like oh that's so scary like 1206 00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,319 just the the culti ritualistic stuff is 1207 00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:24,000 so scary and i kind of looked at her and 1208 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:25,040 i was like 1209 00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,960 you go to church every sunday and drink 1210 00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,359 the blood of somebody and eat their body 1211 00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,359 like you guys all go to this big 1212 00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:33,440 building with like creepy music and 1213 00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,119 like there's a guy that stands at the 1214 00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:36,800 top in this massive robe 1215 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,040 like it's the exact same thing or their 1216 00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:40,720 faces aren't painted but you're 1217 00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:43,040 literally doing the exact same thing 1218 00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:43,760 she's like 1219 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,960 yeah you know jesus and stuff yes it's 1220 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,000 absolutely true 1221 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:50,400 and it's very ritualistic and and behind 1222 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,440 the scenes 1223 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,760 before you go to mass you know the 1224 00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:55,920 priest is up there blessing things he 1225 00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,920 is putting same as a which would you 1226 00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,359 know we would put our intent into 1227 00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,560 something he is therefore 1228 00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,400 blessing with the sign of the cross you 1229 00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,319 know so he's also doing the same thing 1230 00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,319 he's putting that intent into 1231 00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:08,000 into the wine and consecrating it and 1232 00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,599 making it into the blood of christ and 1233 00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:11,280 into the the bread or those little like 1234 00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,760 weird 1235 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:13,680 styrofoam wafer things making it the 1236 00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:14,960 body of christ you know it's 1237 00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:17,839 like vicious by the way yeah no not 1238 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:18,400 really 1239 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:21,440 um i wanted more when you 1240 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,800 what you don't know though is that if 1241 00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,720 you go to a mexican catholic church 1242 00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,319 they're tiny tortillas 1243 00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:28,480 oh so that would be good in a protestant 1244 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,000 church you actually get the wine 1245 00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:32,640 and you get little chunks of bread yes 1246 00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,079 yes 1247 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:36,720 so like there's like chorizo on it oh 1248 00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:43,420 taquito 1249 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:53,030 yes i love it man oh man like when you 1250 00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:54,319 go like down to 1251 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:57,440 like i know we would go as a family 1252 00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:58,880 we would always take these little 1253 00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:01,119 pilgrimages they would call them down 1254 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,480 to uh san juan and this is down like in 1255 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,560 mcallen texas and it's right on the 1256 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:08,640 border and they have this massive 1257 00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:12,000 church there and it was incredible 1258 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:15,599 to see like people will literally crawl 1259 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,480 on their knees 1260 00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,640 for miles like from their house and 1261 00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:20,319 they'll crawl to this church 1262 00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:23,920 on their knees and like it's 1263 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:26,160 it's it's a sight to see like they have 1264 00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:28,240 like the all the stations of the cross 1265 00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:29,839 and people will literally be 1266 00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:32,000 on their knees and just crawl like 1267 00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:33,440 they'll have their hands folded and 1268 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,079 they'll just 1269 00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:36,400 crawl on their knees and it's like 1270 00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,440 that's like 1271 00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:40,400 that is some power like there's like 1272 00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:40,800 some 1273 00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,160 power in that like your your belief 1274 00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,920 and it's it's always it's always been 1275 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:48,000 strange to me like even as a kid because 1276 00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,480 you know 1277 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,400 i told this story on another on another 1278 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:52,160 podcast that we did where like you know 1279 00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,560 like 1280 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,960 i saw the movie fire in the sky when i 1281 00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:56,720 was like a kid but it was like an 1282 00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,280 accident 1283 00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,359 i wasn't supposed to watch it i did and 1284 00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,720 like i started having all these 1285 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:01,920 questions on like 1286 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:04,000 wait this is based on a true story like 1287 00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:05,760 i've never heard anything like this and 1288 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:07,440 like so i'm questioning all this stuff 1289 00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,000 and then i start 1290 00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,839 thinking about man like these people are 1291 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:11,520 crawling on their knees that's some kind 1292 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,800 of power 1293 00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,160 and then you know i've always had just 1294 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:16,240 like this open mind like all these other 1295 00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,960 religions 1296 00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:18,720 and like cultures and people do certain 1297 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:20,079 things and it's like 1298 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:23,359 how can how can all these people be 1299 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,640 wrong 1300 00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:25,920 you know well they're not if it works 1301 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,920 for them exactly yeah 1302 00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:30,160 exactly and and i i think it's not so 1303 00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:31,280 much like the 1304 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,760 structure or the power or like i'm this 1305 00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:34,480 religion 1306 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:37,760 or i'm like i'm uh you know whatever you 1307 00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,720 want to call it 1308 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,800 you know whether you're a witch or or 1309 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:42,240 you're just some dude who 1310 00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,280 believes in magic or whatever right yeah 1311 00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,800 whatever you want to call yourself 1312 00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:49,040 there's like a power in like just your 1313 00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:50,319 intent and like 1314 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,480 what you believe behind the the universe 1315 00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:56,560 i guess yeah absolutely i mean it's all 1316 00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,079 about intent and there's also have you 1317 00:45:03,510 --> 00:44:59,839 heard of the concept of 1318 00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:03,520 um like um thought forums or aggregor 1319 00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:07,280 um and you know in witchcraft we use 1320 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:08,800 those as well like we 1321 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,680 we can create thought forms which is 1322 00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:12,480 basically 1323 00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,560 and you know kind of an entity that you 1324 00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:16,400 bring to life through your own power of 1325 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:17,359 intention 1326 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:20,400 and so i always wonder like okay so 1327 00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,800 there are you know millions and probably 1328 00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:24,000 billions of people that believe in 1329 00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,520 christianity but there are also billions 1330 00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,119 of people that believe in hinduism 1331 00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,119 and billions that believe in you know 1332 00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,200 buddha so 1333 00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:34,079 i always wondered like are these beings 1334 00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:35,280 that they're 1335 00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:37,520 like praying to if you have that much 1336 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,480 intent 1337 00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:40,800 being put out there into the world are 1338 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:41,520 they then 1339 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,640 creating their own god you know like 1340 00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,720 or is this something that existed before 1341 00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,000 but in my 1342 00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:50,400 experience with witchcraft i would say 1343 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:52,800 the intent creates the being 1344 00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:56,000 so yeah interesting yeah i like that 1345 00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:57,040 i've even thought like 1346 00:46:01,589 --> 00:46:00,480 our like even with all the different 1347 00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,599 types of 1348 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:04,240 beliefs and stuff like are these the 1349 00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:04,720 same 1350 00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,599 things showing up and people are just 1351 00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,280 calling them different names like 1352 00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:11,200 all throughout history and whatever 1353 00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,119 culture that you're brought up in like 1354 00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:15,359 are we all talking to the exact same 1355 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:16,480 things and 1356 00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,240 you're just labeling them as something 1357 00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:20,000 different yeah obviously you can find 1358 00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:21,119 differences in 1359 00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,560 and what you're talking to and like 1360 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,720 what's happening and stuff like that but 1361 00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,880 you know i always thought like maybe 1362 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,480 it's the same thing and we're just 1363 00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:30,480 calling it all something different 1364 00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:32,319 yeah okay so here's to make it even more 1365 00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:34,640 complicated perhaps there was this one 1366 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:37,760 universal source right let's just say a 1367 00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:38,560 source 1368 00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:41,280 the christians call that god the 1369 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,640 buddhists call that buddha 1370 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,160 the though buddha didn't create the 1371 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,560 world but to make it very simplistic 1372 00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,079 right you know the hindus call that 1373 00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:49,839 shiva like so 1374 00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:52,079 now there was this one universal source 1375 00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,839 but as people have approached it from 1376 00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,359 different perspectives has that one 1377 00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,200 universal source split off into these 1378 00:47:02,470 --> 00:46:58,800 different beings 1379 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:02,480 and become more than just the one 1380 00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:04,960 so it started out as is an intent an 1381 00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:05,760 energy that 1382 00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,200 was manifested by by will 1383 00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,000 of of enough people to believe in 1384 00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,400 something that could be possible 1385 00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:16,160 and at one point oh i'm just like break 1386 00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:17,599 down this in my head 1387 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,559 like i love that okay yeah it's like the 1388 00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,400 slenderman phenomenon you know 1389 00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:24,079 yeah or just cleaner man was kind of 1390 00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:26,000 brought into being by people believing 1391 00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:27,280 that he existed 1392 00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:30,079 i i like i like to say slenderman 1393 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:30,960 slenderman 1394 00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:40,000 i'm so sorry yeah i mean like i've 1395 00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:40,880 always found it 1396 00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,640 interesting too that like you know you 1397 00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,319 have all these cultures from like the 1398 00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:45,839 beginning of time and there's like all 1399 00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:46,240 these 1400 00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:50,000 different cultures and then it's not 1401 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:50,960 until like at 1402 00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:53,520 after the fall of the egyptian empire 1403 00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:55,520 there you start seeing this monotheistic 1404 00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,040 system come into play 1405 00:48:01,190 --> 00:48:00,000 and you're like wait a second this one 1406 00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:01,200 this one dude 1407 00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:04,240 like all of a sudden out of all of human 1408 00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:05,040 history 1409 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:08,400 and now this one dude who rules all like 1410 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:09,760 comes into play and it's like 1411 00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,720 where was he at the beginning right and 1412 00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,160 that kind of goes back to your 1413 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,240 intent your initial like well maybe 1414 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,480 there was a singular source and and it 1415 00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:20,240 broke off into all these different ones 1416 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,800 like 1417 00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,520 yeah i don't know man i think it depends 1418 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:24,960 on the person too like if you 1419 00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:27,280 say we talk about egyptian history if 1420 00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,640 you look at eknatan 1421 00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,280 he tried to create a singular god from a 1422 00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,040 pantheon he tried to worship 1423 00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:35,520 raw and the people just were not 1424 00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:38,000 thrilled with this concept and so 1425 00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,359 you know whatever happened to him having 1426 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,880 jim we don't know exactly what happened 1427 00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,920 to him but then 1428 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,000 when you can comment who was his son 1429 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:45,680 came he brought all of the sons 1430 00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,680 he brought all of the pantheon back did 1431 00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,760 you know interesting tidbit 1432 00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,680 that tootin common's original name was 1433 00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:53,040 not tootin common 1434 00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,800 it was toot akhnatan because he was 1435 00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:57,440 named after his father but he wanted to 1436 00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,319 get rid of that association and so he 1437 00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,000 became tutankhamun 1438 00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,880 which amun was the kind of like head god 1439 00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:06,880 in the egyptian pantheon 1440 00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:09,040 i lived in the middle east for a while 1441 00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:10,720 that's pretty awesome that's 1442 00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:13,920 cool i mean i i'd imagine like living in 1443 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,240 it 1444 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:16,400 if they lived in such close quarters 1445 00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:17,280 that tootin 1446 00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:22,240 would be pretty common in this area so 1447 00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:25,760 i get it yeah sure sure dude who knows 1448 00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:26,559 what they ate 1449 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:35,109 if they worship the cat worship the bull 1450 00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:36,240 and like and 1451 00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:39,280 and worship that there was a new dog and 1452 00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:40,960 the bird like what else is there it's 1453 00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:41,440 like 1454 00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,200 hippos did hippo success they had a 1455 00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,359 hippo god 1456 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:48,480 what up what did they eat man oh wheat 1457 00:49:58,260 --> 00:49:56,230 barley barley maybe they just drank beer 1458 00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,270 the potato was really big in egypt 1459 00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:00,319 [Music] 1460 00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:02,000 that's what that's what that light bulb 1461 00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:03,839 uh uh glyph 1462 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,040 is it's not a light bulb it's a potato 1463 00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:08,880 they're like making a baked potato i 1464 00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:11,359 don't know why nobody gets this 1465 00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,280 it's so simple you idiots 1466 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:17,760 we showed you how to make a potato 1467 00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:20,400 thousands of years ago 1468 00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:23,680 some light bulb thing like that like 1469 00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,359 everybody's trying so hard for like 1470 00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:26,960 crops like moving around in different 1471 00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:27,440 climates 1472 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:28,559 climate is changing like and the 1473 00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,160 potatoes sitting there like guys i could 1474 00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,160 grow literally in it yeah 1475 00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,079 literally anywhere put me somewhere i 1476 00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:36,000 could i've got i will flourish 1477 00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,839 or there would be some poop i'll be good 1478 00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:40,640 exactly just do it 1479 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:42,079 you can literally leave me on your 1480 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:43,760 counter and i'll start sprouting yeah 1481 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,880 that's all you got to do 1482 00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,720 like that's it yeah yeah that's 1483 00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,720 hilarious dude like you know it's like 1484 00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:50,720 it's a it's this diagram of like a light 1485 00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,720 bulb but it is a potato 1486 00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,079 but they knew that you could make 1487 00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:56,480 electricity from potatoes in the 1488 00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,839 first place they were like that's right 1489 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,760 you guys are dumb there's always that 1490 00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:03,200 one kid at the science fair who makes 1491 00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,630 can you imagine being a judge for like a 1492 00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,559 high school science fair for like 1493 00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,960 30 years and every year some kid makes a 1494 00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,640 potato clock you're right he's like i 1495 00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,720 don't know the potato 1496 00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:17,920 we're just going to average this out and 1497 00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:22,559 call it a b-plus 1498 00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:24,559 how many how many ways can you make a 1499 00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:33,190 i mean baked potato volcano man 1500 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,480 there you go yeah potato volcano 1501 00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,400 mashed potatoes come out that would be 1502 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,559 me at the science fair 1503 00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,880 it spits gravy everywhere there's just 1504 00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:44,880 potatoes coming down the side 1505 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,000 delicious that's the best 1506 00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:50,559 volcano ever and you peel the potato 1507 00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,440 skin and you 1508 00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,280 and you set it on your volcano to make 1509 00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:54,880 it look like a volcano 1510 00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,000 yeah we would we would kill 1511 00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,920 high school scientists yeah we all need 1512 00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:01,440 to get together yes 1513 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:04,640 these kids lab group you know it's funny 1514 00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:05,680 like 1515 00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,839 actually got together which was very 1516 00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:16,960 rare we would like 1517 00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:19,599 crush it yeah like we would all step up 1518 00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:20,960 to the plate and like 1519 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,760 i know some [\h__\h] because you were so 1520 00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,680 much more creative than the smart people 1521 00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:27,520 the smart people were just very by the 1522 00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:27,839 book 1523 00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:30,319 creative people were like we're gonna 1524 00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:31,680 make this to where it doesn't even fit 1525 00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,160 through the door 1526 00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:37,040 it's true it's true i mean like not to 1527 00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:37,680 sound 1528 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:40,319 not to brag but i was always in the like 1529 00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:40,960 the ap 1530 00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:42,800 bio classes and then like you know like 1531 00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,440 the honor and i was always like 1532 00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:47,599 what like it's some of the things that 1533 00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:48,800 some of the groups came up and i was 1534 00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:49,200 like 1535 00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:53,040 wow yeah how did they come up with this 1536 00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,680 yes it's amazing it's amazing well that 1537 00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:57,440 i mean bringing it back around to like 1538 00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:58,800 we were talking about i want to get 1539 00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,720 those 1540 00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,720 that that frame of mind right like we 1541 00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,160 think now as a society 1542 00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:06,079 we look back at these ancient ancient 1543 00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:07,520 civilization and say 1544 00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:10,160 no way like how did they think of that 1545 00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:10,960 just because 1546 00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:13,359 we can't figure out how they did it and 1547 00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:15,760 where that idea comes from doesn't mean 1548 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,880 that they came up with that idea man 1549 00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:20,960 channeling my my my david childress 1550 00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,030 potatoes potatoes giant sponge 1551 00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:31,839 my 14 year old daughter does a spot on 1552 00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,160 david childress it's amazing 1553 00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:37,119 that is so good man i love that have you 1554 00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:38,319 seen have you seen the 1555 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:40,720 the giant balls video that he does it's 1556 00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:41,520 like it's 1557 00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:43,359 somebody like has like four minutes 1558 00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:45,119 clipped out where i don't think he made 1559 00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:45,920 it i think so much 1560 00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,680 he didn't make it somebody else made it 1561 00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:49,280 it's it's like a four minute video 1562 00:53:57,140 --> 00:53:51,040 clipped out of him just being like 1563 00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:57,150 giant balls giant rocks 1564 00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:02,790 i wonder if like he ever listened to 1565 00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:04,800 himself like does he watch himself and 1566 00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:05,760 go like 1567 00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,280 you know how like the first time you 1568 00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:09,040 hear yourself like the first time i was 1569 00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,880 like i i had initially had a hard time 1570 00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,480 watching myself on video 1571 00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,400 i was like oh that's horrible like is 1572 00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,839 that what i sound like how annoying 1573 00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:17,200 can you imagine being david chilled or 1574 00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:19,839 something going like oh no 1575 00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,119 is that what i sound like i'm gonna be a 1576 00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:26,240 south park character i know it 1577 00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:28,960 i i yeah we passed him in the hallway at 1578 00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:29,440 uh 1579 00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,559 like too 1580 00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:35,119 too nervous to like say what's up uh 1581 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:43,030 we did like three episodes and the first 1582 00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:45,280 episode just made fun of everybody so we 1583 00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,559 were like we don't know how well 1584 00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,920 received we're gonna be 1585 00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,160 uh no one no one had no one's we were 1586 00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,079 like we were like why does everybody 1587 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:54,559 in the ufo feel just look like ex hot 1588 00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,440 topic managers like 1589 00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,040 like we're just clowning about people 1590 00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:01,040 like it's so funny 1591 00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,000 no we have become right now you've 1592 00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:07,280 become the ex hot topic people 1593 00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,680 yes it happened it happened naturally 1594 00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:11,119 and i'm okay with it we didn't realize 1595 00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,040 there was a lot of science going on 1596 00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:15,119 right and that's when ben and i became 1597 00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:16,160 doctor scientists 1598 00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:18,839 that's the whole precipice of doctor 1599 00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:21,200 scientists i'm so excited i want to 1600 00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,960 become a doctor scientist too 1601 00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,559 well now that you've been on the show 1602 00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:27,359 our show we send you a t-shirt so 1603 00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:29,200 we'll talk awesome i will wear it with 1604 00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,880 pride i will wear it on one of my 1605 00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:32,880 paranormal spirits episodes yeah that'd 1606 00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:35,040 be dope okay i'll send two for uh 1607 00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:38,160 yeah yeah i love it that means you gotta 1608 00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,119 send us a box of wine 1609 00:55:46,829 --> 00:55:43,440 and we'll drink it on the garage man i 1610 00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:48,230 booze 1611 00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,960 yes well i mean you know what's so funny 1612 00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:52,160 though is when i was on 1613 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:53,280 i think it was probably when i was on 1614 00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,480 one of the round tables i don't on 1615 00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,920 space.radio i don't know if you guys 1616 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:56,880 were on it 1617 00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:00,000 at that point in time um you and i might 1618 00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:01,280 have been chatting ben like in the 1619 00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,400 background but like 1620 00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:04,400 dave was announcing you know that i was 1621 00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,760 going to be taking over the saturday 1622 00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:07,200 night shows 1623 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:09,200 people married people in the chat room 1624 00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:10,480 were like are you bringing the drinking 1625 00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:11,119 game 1626 00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:14,160 and i was kind of like yes yes and you 1627 00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,040 know 1628 00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,880 yeah i wasn't on that well but i was 1629 00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:18,960 chatting with you i had a few glasses of 1630 00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,559 wine i was like oh my god look at all 1631 00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,839 this [\h__\h] 1632 00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,240 uh yeah but like that that was that 1633 00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:26,400 that's awesome i love that idea so the 1634 00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:27,440 the drinking game 1635 00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:28,960 joe when we were talking about having 1636 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,200 you and caitlyn on joe was like we need 1637 00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,640 to have something fun with these girls 1638 00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:34,160 let's let's do a drinking game 1639 00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:36,799 we did not know that you already had a 1640 00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:37,839 drinking game i 1641 00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:40,480 promise that they already have well 1642 00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,920 they're way ahead of well 1643 00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,599 the original idea was to get like a 1644 00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:45,440 group of people 1645 00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:48,319 together like y'all and then like dave 1646 00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:49,680 and like whoever else we could like get 1647 00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,799 a hold of and be like 1648 00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:51,920 you know have you ever seen drunk 1649 00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:53,920 history where they just get so hammered 1650 00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,480 and then 1651 00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:57,040 like compared our show to that nobody 1652 00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:58,559 just wrote drunk history in the comments 1653 00:57:03,030 --> 00:56:59,280 and i was like 1654 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,040 thank you and that was the idea that 1655 00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:05,040 like i just crashed at ben's house and 1656 00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:05,520 like 1657 00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,280 next morning and just try and talk about 1658 00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:15,520 ufos and tell me how it goes i think we 1659 00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,720 still need to do that 1660 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,400 katelyn and i would totally be down for 1661 00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:20,240 that because because we drink but we 1662 00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:21,040 still say 1663 00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,760 stay like cognizant enough to like okay 1664 00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,520 i can go home after this you know we 1665 00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:27,200 just have a good time but like this 1666 00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,240 we're talking like like it's joe's joe 1667 00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:32,640 joe's it's a slumber party it's a slime 1668 00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:34,400 so that's when you guys come on our show 1669 00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:34,880 because 1670 00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:36,799 caitlyn and i are already both at our 1671 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:39,040 houses so there are some episodes 1672 00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:41,200 that you'll see them and it's like maybe 1673 00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:42,880 10 minutes but it took us an 1674 00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:47,040 hour and a half because we were like um 1675 00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:54,870 blew over a plateau 1676 00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,880 and i was in 1962. 1677 00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,440 i was so curious about that because like 1678 00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,880 i started to notice the more i started 1679 00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:04,559 watching y'all's episodes i was like oh 1680 00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:06,880 [\h__\h] these girls are partying 1681 00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,839 hard because like i said we record more 1682 00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,040 than one at a time 1683 00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,359 and we're drinking through all of them 1684 00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,599 so by the third one we save like the 1685 00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:18,000 dumbest one for the third one because we 1686 00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:20,079 know we're gonna be like smashed at that 1687 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,880 point 1688 00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:22,480 and so that's usually when the funniest 1689 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:23,920 stuff comes out you know because we're 1690 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:24,400 just like 1691 00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,480 saying stupid stuff yeah and uh yeah 1692 00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:30,880 y'all so they do we need to figure out 1693 00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:32,559 how to do a live like push button 1694 00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:33,680 because dude they 1695 00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:35,119 you've seen the show that yeah y'all do 1696 00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,110 the the the fart noises 1697 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:39,119 [Laughter] 1698 00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,960 when we mess up yes oh my god 1699 00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,559 every time you mess up a word you got a 1700 00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,559 dream yes i can send that sound to you 1701 00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:48,880 i'll send that sound clip too 1702 00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,920 there's like there's like three 1703 00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:51,839 different ones or something right like 1704 00:58:55,740 --> 00:58:52,400 it's 1705 00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:55,750 french horn 1706 00:59:01,990 --> 00:58:58,079 [Laughter] 1707 00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:02,000 that makes it even better yes 1708 00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:04,240 i heard that i was like that is perfect 1709 00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:06,079 i'm the one responsible for putting in 1710 00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:07,920 all the stupid sound effects and 1711 00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,119 ridiculously dumb graphics that's me 1712 00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:13,599 all right you can tell there's a lot of 1713 00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,799 effort put into it 1714 00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,720 yeah there is sometimes actually there 1715 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:18,559 is i'm like i spent an 1716 00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:21,839 hour on this ridiculous graphic oh 1717 00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,400 my god like the the preacher and the the 1718 00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:26,319 cross-eyed preacher and the devil like 1719 00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:27,839 have you seen that one yet the devil 1720 00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:29,359 wrestling the cross-eyed preacher 1721 00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,400 i don't think so i don't think i've seen 1722 00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:32,640 so we have so throughout you'll notice 1723 00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,280 like 1724 00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:35,200 if you watch more of our it got dark in 1725 00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:36,799 here all of a sudden oh 1726 00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:43,829 yeah right come on lucifer where are you 1727 00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,240 trying to get some herbs out man 1728 00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:48,240 where are the herbs at he just lights 1729 00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,240 some candles that's why witches do it 1730 00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:52,799 we're just in the dark 1731 00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:55,280 so yeah so throughout our show on 1732 00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:56,160 different episodes 1733 01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:57,599 some i don't even remember how we 1734 01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,160 started it but we somehow on one episode 1735 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,559 talked about john cena being the devil 1736 01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:04,000 so we have this like 1737 01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:05,839 john cena kind of wrestling thing and i 1738 01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:08,079 put devil horns on him and he pops up 1739 01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:09,920 throughout different episodes 1740 01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:12,480 and so when i found this episode or this 1741 01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:13,119 story 1742 01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:15,920 about a preacher in massachusetts back 1743 01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,839 in the 1700s who claimed that he 1744 01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:19,040 wrestled the devil 1745 01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:21,359 and the creature was legitimately 1746 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,359 cross-eyed and when i say like cross he 1747 01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:25,280 was like cross-eyed 1748 01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:26,960 like you see his poor even his portrait 1749 01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:28,720 is like cross-eyed 1750 01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:31,599 and uh one guy had the greatest comment 1751 01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:33,440 on that episode he said something like 1752 01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:34,880 one eye went to the store the other 1753 01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:41,430 which i was just like yes thank you so 1754 01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:43,440 much but so we had john 1755 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:46,000 the devil john cena wrestling the 1756 01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:47,920 cross-eyed preacher and we made this 1757 01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:49,839 whole like before we put that video out 1758 01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:50,960 we made 1759 01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:54,240 like a a wrestling ad 1760 01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,520 what do you call i can't remember what 1761 01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:57,280 we called it it was like the sunday 1762 01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:58,640 smackdown or something 1763 01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:00,559 like that yes oh yeah something 1764 01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:02,240 absolutely ridiculous yeah 1765 01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:03,520 i don't remember why i'm talking about 1766 01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:05,280 that but i love that 1767 01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:07,440 i love that oh the graphics yeah so 1768 01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:08,640 those graphics took a little while 1769 01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:10,559 because i had like the preacher pushing 1770 01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:12,079 john cena off of a 1771 01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:17,829 it's like some like real monty python 1772 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,829 oh 1773 01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:30,069 that's another like witch reference that 1774 01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:31,520 just cracks me up 1775 01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:34,000 every single time is that damn the holy 1776 01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:35,040 grail 1777 01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:37,599 yeah when they find the witch like she's 1778 01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:39,920 only a witch 1779 01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:43,839 like how do you know she's a witch 1780 01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:49,349 they're like she's like this isn't a 1781 01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:51,359 real nose it's a fake one it's like a 1782 01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:58,069 so is there some truth in that like did 1783 01:02:10,150 --> 01:01:58,640 like 1784 01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:10,160 well wood burns and so do witches 1785 01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,640 but like you know how else can you can 1786 01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:14,400 you make sure that she's a witch and 1787 01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:15,039 they're like 1788 01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:18,720 build a bridge out of her like no no no 1789 01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:20,559 what's another way like you see if they 1790 01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:23,359 float like you know like if a witch 1791 01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:26,000 is the same buoyancy is like a duck then 1792 01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:27,680 that means that she's made of wood 1793 01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:30,079 which means you can burn her right but 1794 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,280 if she sinks 1795 01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:33,760 yeah browns she was innocent she was in 1796 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,319 this 1797 01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:36,000 she's she's a heaven 1798 01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:37,680 [Laughter] 1799 01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:41,039 i thought you said if she stinks okay 1800 01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:43,920 if she stinks she's a witch yeah i mean 1801 01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:45,839 even here in salem they did some really 1802 01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:47,039 weird stuff too 1803 01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,760 like um they you know they would talk 1804 01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:51,119 about the witch's mark 1805 01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:53,039 which was basically supposed to be like 1806 01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:54,960 a third nipple on a witch's body that 1807 01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:56,799 they're familiar drank from 1808 01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:59,359 and so like strip these witches down and 1809 01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,839 find 1810 01:03:02,950 --> 01:03:01,680 something on their body and like 1811 01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:02,960 depending on who the 1812 01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:05,119 the inquisitor was and they poked it 1813 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:06,720 with a long needle and if it hurt you 1814 01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,920 were found to be a witch with a 1815 01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:09,359 different inquisitor if you poked it it 1816 01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:10,000 didn't hurt 1817 01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:11,839 you were a witch you know so it was just 1818 01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:13,039 kind of like 1819 01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:14,640 some of this stuff was crazy they even 1820 01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:16,720 hung two dogs here in salem for giving 1821 01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:17,839 people the evil eye 1822 01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:20,640 i know isn't that crazy whoa that's 1823 01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:22,000 because that person was making that dog 1824 01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:23,280 uncomfortable that's the only reason 1825 01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:24,400 dogs do that 1826 01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,480 right ben were you telling me the story 1827 01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:30,559 were you telling me the story about the 1828 01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,480 about those those ladies who were 1829 01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:34,720 falsely accused of being a witch 1830 01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:37,599 because the guy who ran the town wanted 1831 01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,400 their land 1832 01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:40,240 yeah that happened in salem it was that 1833 01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:41,839 it was this i watched 1834 01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:43,520 i can't remember i wish i could but it 1835 01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,039 was it was a show 1836 01:03:48,549 --> 01:03:47,599 man it was it had to do with salem and 1837 01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:48,559 it interviewed some 1838 01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:50,319 some wiccans or witches and i'm i'm 1839 01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:52,160 still i know lynne that you're probably 1840 01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,440 hating me right now for not 1841 01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:55,200 you just told us what the difference was 1842 01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:03,990 but uh they were explaining that in in 1843 01:04:08,870 --> 01:04:06,480 salem a lot of the the witch trials 1844 01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:08,880 which hap actually didn't happen and not 1845 01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:10,400 a lot of them that are famous 1846 01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,440 did not actually happen and because of 1847 01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:15,520 anyway i'm probably butchering all this 1848 01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:16,720 but one of the stories 1849 01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:19,280 is okay that it had to do with land like 1850 01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:19,920 people if 1851 01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:21,440 if you wanted to take over someone's 1852 01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,280 land you had to either 1853 01:04:26,789 --> 01:04:25,520 wait till they died or or buy it from 1854 01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:26,799 them or like 1855 01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:28,799 forcibly give them to you so people 1856 01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,880 would just make [\h__\h] up so it was like 1857 01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:31,920 you could tell the story are you 1858 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:33,839 familiar with the story yeah i'm 1859 01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:35,440 actually training to be a tour guide in 1860 01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:36,160 salem right 1861 01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:38,559 oh so i know all of this stuff yes so 1862 01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,000 that actually there was this 1863 01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:41,839 law in salem at the time during the 1864 01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:43,599 witch trials that if you accuse someone 1865 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:45,039 of being a witch and they were found 1866 01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:45,760 guilty 1867 01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:47,440 you could have a part of their land some 1868 01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:49,119 of their property some of their money 1869 01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:50,720 and then kind of the corrupt government 1870 01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:53,119 would take the rest so yeah it was a way 1871 01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:53,760 to 1872 01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:55,200 either get rid of someone you didn't 1873 01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:57,200 like like giles corey he was actually 1874 01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:58,880 really hated in the community because he 1875 01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:59,760 was just this 1876 01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:02,240 grumpy crotchety old man he wasn't like 1877 01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:03,599 you know he's portrayed as this like 1878 01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:05,920 hero who stood up for his values and 1879 01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:07,359 he really wasn't he was actually really 1880 01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:08,880 hated in the community he was just 1881 01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:10,400 horrible human being 1882 01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:13,119 um but so plenty of people lined up to 1883 01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:14,640 accuse charles cory because they wanted 1884 01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:16,319 to get rid of him and bridget bishop the 1885 01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:18,160 one who she was the first one hung 1886 01:05:21,430 --> 01:05:19,760 um a lot of the women didn't like 1887 01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:21,440 bridget bishop because 1888 01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,640 she she was fine she was way prettier 1889 01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:26,720 yes and she dressed in modestly you know 1890 01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:28,799 for their time like oh she wore bright 1891 01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:29,359 colors 1892 01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:32,720 oh horror did you see her pinky yeah 1893 01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:42,069 she was accused too yeah so it was just 1894 01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:43,920 a way to get their property you know and 1895 01:05:47,190 --> 01:05:45,440 to get rid of them 1896 01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:47,200 which is sad to think that that was what 1897 01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:48,480 they did but they did 1898 01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:49,680 they're like is this [\h__\h] wearing 1899 01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:53,200 sandals right she's a witch for sure 1900 01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:55,119 come on i will own all of your lamps 1901 01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:57,039 dude that's so terrible 1902 01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,520 yeah what are they what do they call are 1903 01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:01,440 dude witches called witches too 1904 01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:05,039 warlocks oh is that made up is that from 1905 01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:05,920 halloweentown 1906 01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:08,640 oh is that from helen okay this is my 1907 01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:09,119 view 1908 01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:13,440 warlocks out there 1909 01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,839 but which is a unisex term there are 1910 01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:17,119 male witches and they're female 1911 01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,640 is it doesn't matter you could be 1912 01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:20,240 non-binary which you could be whatever 1913 01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:21,200 you want which is a 1914 01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:23,839 is a general term then there are the 1915 01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:25,200 guys that call themselves 1916 01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:27,599 warlocks so they're like they're like 1917 01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,880 the chads 1918 01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:30,960 they are like automatically douchey in 1919 01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:32,640 my book if they say they're a warlock 1920 01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:33,119 i'm like 1921 01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:36,160 um yeah okay awesome 1922 01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:38,240 actually i know a really great guy named 1923 01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:39,280 chad 1924 01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:41,839 so i'm sorry but you know what i mean 1925 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:43,039 it's like 1926 01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,720 except for jack black right because he 1927 01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:46,960 has a song i am the warlock 1928 01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:48,319 yeah well jack black can be whatever he 1929 01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:51,200 wants yourself 1930 01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:52,720 yeah but when you see these i mean 1931 01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:54,880 there's very very few of them in salem 1932 01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:56,720 who walk around with the cloak and they 1933 01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:57,599 call themselves 1934 01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:01,039 warlocks and i'm like we all know who 1935 01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:03,039 you are and you're kind of a [\h__\h] 1936 01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,079 you know there's one i'm not saying who 1937 01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:07,920 he is he's very famous 1938 01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:10,559 in salem but he's google what is his 1939 01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:11,280 name though 1940 01:07:18,069 --> 01:07:14,640 i'll tell you you could later google 1941 01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:18,079 famous warlock and for sale you could 1942 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:20,240 you absolutely could and i'm sure he 1943 01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,599 would come up 1944 01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:23,359 you'd have to like duck duck go it for 1945 01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:24,799 sure we're gonna have to we should have 1946 01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:26,319 him on the show and call him a witch and 1947 01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:28,640 he'd be like i'm a warlock i'm a warlock 1948 01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:36,950 he was on one of the paranormal shows 1949 01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:37,520 and 1950 01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:39,200 they had him like in the witch house 1951 01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:40,960 they did an investigation and he was 1952 01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:42,319 there and he was like 1953 01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:44,079 you know dressed in his cloak with his 1954 01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:46,480 dark eyeliner holding the skull 1955 01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:48,799 and looking to the face of death and i 1956 01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:50,480 was just kind of like dude come on 1957 01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:52,160 it's his name christina at home like 1958 01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:53,839 playing d and d with your buddies like 1959 01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:54,799 stop 1960 01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:58,000 you're not that cool i so 1961 01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:00,160 sometimes i hear words differently and 1962 01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:02,240 uh because i have terrible hearing from 1963 01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:04,480 loud music for like 15 years of my life 1964 01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,480 and i when you said look into a skull i 1965 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:08,559 thought you said scone 1966 01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:09,890 like ten 1967 01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:18,309 tomatoes and lamb that's not delicious 1968 01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:21,279 a little bit of sauce and some lettuce 1969 01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:22,239 yes 1970 01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,910 spirits episode in my future there we go 1971 01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:41,520 you're gonna have to sneak the scone of 1972 01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:43,359 death into something something else 1973 01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:45,040 i will do it and i'll tell you i'll be 1974 01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:46,880 like watch this episode 1975 01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:54,470 oh dude that's awesome 1976 01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:56,159 it's hilarious yeah that'd be tough 1977 01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,239 because like we parody a lot of stuff 1978 01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,319 like in the ufo community we make fun of 1979 01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:01,920 it and i've kind of i kind of be worried 1980 01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:03,279 to like parody like 1981 01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:05,440 have somebody all like witchy other than 1982 01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,400 you because you're pretty cool 1983 01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:10,400 parody some witchy person and they're 1984 01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:12,080 like yeah 1985 01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,920 i mean those switches are like totally 1986 01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:15,520 fine with it like a lot of us have like 1987 01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:16,319 you have to be 1988 01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,839 you know because there are people that 1989 01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:19,359 are just like witches they're not real 1990 01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:20,000 you know like 1991 01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:21,920 just some like people just like say all 1992 01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:23,839 kinds of crazy stuff and so 1993 01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:25,279 yeah most of us have a pretty good sense 1994 01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:27,120 of humor about it but some are some are 1995 01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:28,480 a little more serious than others but 1996 01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:29,359 that's okay 1997 01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:30,960 none of my friends my friends are all 1998 01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:33,120 like as ridiculous as i am so 1999 01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:36,080 yeah so a weird group in the which 2000 01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,040 category 2001 01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:39,839 does where does like where does like 2002 01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:40,799 voodoo 2003 01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:51,600 similar to wiki and witchcraft 2004 01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:54,719 voodoo is the religion hoodoo is 2005 01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:58,000 the magic the spell work so some witches 2006 01:10:01,590 --> 01:09:59,520 do incorporate like i do incorporate 2007 01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:01,600 some aspects of hoodoo into my practice 2008 01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,149 like here's somebody's head i shrunk 2009 01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:08,080 last week here's the scone 2010 01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:10,960 yes so this is my mom brigitte and she 2011 01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:12,560 is one of the law 2012 01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:15,199 and um and her husband is baron simetti 2013 01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,000 who is kind of like 2014 01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:18,480 the guardian of the dead so of course i 2015 01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:19,440 love that 2016 01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:21,120 um he's actually down there too but he's 2017 01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:23,120 behind a bunch of stuff uh so i 2018 01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,120 do incorporate some of them like and i 2019 01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:27,600 just i don't necessarily work with them 2020 01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:28,640 because i'm not a 2021 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,560 hoodoo practitioner and i certainly 2022 01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:32,560 would never like claim to know a ton 2023 01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,600 about it but 2024 01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:35,520 i do go i go to new orleans every year 2025 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:36,719 so i've kind of like 2026 01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:40,080 absorbed some of it into my practice um 2027 01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:42,560 you know like when i go into a cemetery 2028 01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,199 i will 2029 01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:44,640 you know ask the guardian of the 2030 01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,159 cemetery for permission and view the 2031 01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,840 cemetery as like a crossroads between 2032 01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:49,120 the living and the dead 2033 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,880 and crossroads are another thing even 2034 01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:52,560 like literal cro like where the roads 2035 01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:53,360 cross 2036 01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:55,679 and who do that's a tradition is to use 2037 01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:57,440 that to like bury things 2038 01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:58,960 um depending on whatever it is you're 2039 01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:01,120 doing and so i've done that as well so 2040 01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:02,800 there are witches that do incorporate 2041 01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:04,480 hoodoo into their practice and there are 2042 01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:05,920 some who are just 2043 01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:09,760 like hoodoo witches so i have a question 2044 01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:10,239 about 2045 01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:13,280 okay so our i don't know if i'm uh if we 2046 01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:14,960 had talked about this off air with 2047 01:11:19,890 --> 01:11:18,000 a guest of ours but or if it was on air 2048 01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:19,900 but an individual 2049 01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:21,040 [Music] 2050 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:24,159 a friend of ours received a a 2051 01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:27,760 bone of some sort in the mail and 2052 01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:29,360 i had some you know what i'm talking 2053 01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:30,880 about had some 2054 01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:33,280 had some really unfortunate you know 2055 01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:35,920 sequences of events for years 2056 01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:38,320 and the moment they got rid of that 2057 01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:40,719 present that necklace that had like some 2058 01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:42,159 kind of bone i don't want to get too 2059 01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:44,239 many specifics away right yeah not my 2060 01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:46,480 story to tell but like 2061 01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:49,520 is is that is that indicative of of of 2062 01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:50,880 either thing that you're talking about 2063 01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,960 with with hoodoo or voodoo it could be 2064 01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,480 it could be a curse or it could be like 2065 01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:56,560 just some dark magic that like somebody 2066 01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,159 infused it with something 2067 01:12:01,189 --> 01:12:00,000 and yeah here you go here's a present 2068 01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:01,199 for you you know 2069 01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:02,560 i mean it's just like even if you think 2070 01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:04,159 of in the paranormal community there can 2071 01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:06,560 be spirit attachments to objects 2072 01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:09,040 well in in witchcraft and hoodoo we can 2073 01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:10,480 do the same thing we can attach 2074 01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:13,040 energies to an object just like you know 2075 01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:14,560 like a lot of the things that we use 2076 01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:16,719 regularly like i have my pendulum back 2077 01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,520 there that would be infused with energy 2078 01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:21,440 so you can do that to any item yeah so 2079 01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:23,280 it sounds like maybe there was a little 2080 01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:26,000 something so i mean this this individual 2081 01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,480 uh 2082 01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,800 it was under the impression that it was 2083 01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,000 not 2084 01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:32,640 technically witchcraft but it was it was 2085 01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:33,840 a little 2086 01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,560 to say like it was it was a different 2087 01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:37,920 hierarchy it was 2088 01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:41,040 it had to do a little bit with with 2089 01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:43,679 uh i'm just gonna say the illuminati in 2090 01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:44,480 a way but 2091 01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,640 that's the wrong word but you catch my 2092 01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:48,719 drift yeah yeah there's other terms for 2093 01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:51,679 it but it's uh it's kind of this secret 2094 01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:53,040 not a lot of people know about it and 2095 01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:54,560 there's a couple of terms and i just i 2096 01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:56,159 don't want to give away too many details 2097 01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:56,880 yeah 2098 01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:00,080 occult practices in those secret 2099 01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,760 societies so it's all the same 2100 01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:03,440 it's the same stuff it's just different 2101 01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,880 words different terms 2102 01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:06,800 so but it's all intention it's all 2103 01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:08,960 energy it's all the same stuff and 2104 01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:12,080 basically so i mean that's just i don't 2105 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,880 know that 2106 01:13:16,149 --> 01:13:15,040 total i'm so glad you said that it was 2107 01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:16,159 like uh 2108 01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:19,440 i i had a hunch that it was it doesn't 2109 01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:21,840 matt again back to full circle back to 2110 01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:23,040 what you call things 2111 01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,159 names like really it doesn't matter it's 2112 01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:29,360 the intent behind it and the the the 2113 01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:30,239 effects 2114 01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:32,320 that that happen to it when you apply 2115 01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:34,480 intent whether it be one person or 2116 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:35,520 multiple people 2117 01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:37,679 yeah i think the more people you have i 2118 01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:39,199 mean we could even tie that back into 2119 01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:41,440 prayer the more people you have 2120 01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:43,520 praying to something and putting their 2121 01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:44,960 positive intent 2122 01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:48,080 uh it tends to change this 2123 01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:50,640 whatever this this reality is and i 2124 01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:51,440 think that's just 2125 01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:53,520 fun to think about and obviously the 2126 01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,040 story of our friend that 2127 01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:57,280 received bone in the mail like yeah 2128 01:14:02,070 --> 01:13:59,120 that's 2129 01:14:03,669 --> 01:14:02,080 know dude did they know who it came from 2130 01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:03,679 oh they did and they thought it was just 2131 01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:06,080 like a weird present yeah like here's 2132 01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:07,440 the phone 2133 01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:11,440 yeah i mean i would be like awesome yeah 2134 01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,800 they just thought it was a neat little 2135 01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:14,560 trinket that was sent you know because 2136 01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:16,080 when you kind of get into this stuff and 2137 01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:16,560 you meet 2138 01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:18,159 people and they all do different things 2139 01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:19,600 you know it's like somebody sends you 2140 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:21,120 something you're like oh that's that's 2141 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:22,000 neat you know 2142 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:23,920 you put it on your shelf and bones all 2143 01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:25,120 over there like i wouldn't think 2144 01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:26,800 anything of it yeah so i could see how 2145 01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:28,000 they would probably just be like 2146 01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:31,199 oh but yeah yeah and as soon as they got 2147 01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:32,480 rid of it 2148 01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:35,120 things started looking up pretty quickly 2149 01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:37,120 that sounds like that's probably what it 2150 01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:38,000 was then 2151 01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,440 you remember uh you remember the 2152 01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:41,520 conversation we had with chad and alta 2153 01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,920 and they talked about living in the top 2154 01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:44,880 floor 2155 01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:48,159 uh they lived down in new orleans 2156 01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:51,280 and underneath of them there was a uh 2157 01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:54,239 somebody who practiced hudu and she had 2158 01:15:05,590 --> 01:14:54,480 an 2159 01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:05,600 everything burnt 2160 01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:08,159 except for her altar everything was 2161 01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:09,040 burnt to the ground 2162 01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:11,199 except for her altar and the clothes 2163 01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:13,280 that she wore because she had like his 2164 01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,159 his wedding suit and her wedding dress 2165 01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:18,000 and that's where she would go and like 2166 01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:20,080 do her practice and like everything 2167 01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:21,679 burnt down except for 2168 01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,800 that specific area well and who do they 2169 01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,640 do a lot of ancestral work too 2170 01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:28,239 you know oftentimes they have an 2171 01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:29,679 ancestral altar 2172 01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:31,199 i used to have one i don't have one i 2173 01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:32,560 have several altars like you can 2174 01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:34,640 actually see them that is one 2175 01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:38,320 that is one um so yeah i mean altars are 2176 01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,960 just like 2177 01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:40,560 it's a it's kind of it's like it's 2178 01:15:43,189 --> 01:15:42,480 similar to an altar in a church it's 2179 01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:43,199 where 2180 01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:45,520 the priest conducts his rituals right an 2181 01:15:49,030 --> 01:15:46,960 altar in the church 2182 01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:49,040 and it's the same for witchcraft and who 2183 01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:50,000 do 2184 01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:51,520 your altar is kind of like your sacred 2185 01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:53,199 space where you conduct 2186 01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,760 your work yeah so it makes sense that if 2187 01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:56,640 she was 2188 01:16:01,830 --> 01:15:59,679 probably doing ancestral work and 2189 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,840 working with him doing spirit work 2190 01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:03,280 i like to work with spirits that's one 2191 01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:05,280 of the things i do not all witches do 2192 01:16:10,090 --> 01:16:08,960 um so yeah 2193 01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:10,100 spirits 2194 01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:13,120 [Laughter] 2195 01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:16,159 of all kinds lynn you made me think of 2196 01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,800 something 2197 01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:19,199 uh and i i just this is what my brain 2198 01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:20,239 does it likes making 2199 01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,840 connections and i'm terrible at it 2200 01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:23,679 usually but i think i'm onto something 2201 01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:24,320 here think 2202 01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:26,080 let me know what you think about this 2203 01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:27,920 this shrine of this altar thing how 2204 01:16:32,470 --> 01:16:28,480 different 2205 01:16:34,149 --> 01:16:32,480 is uh uh a typical like spooky shrine 2206 01:16:36,149 --> 01:16:34,159 with like candles and like little 2207 01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:36,159 figurines and like flowers and some 2208 01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:38,719 some sage or whatever how different is 2209 01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,199 that 2210 01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:41,280 than someone's office desk with photos 2211 01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,239 of their family 2212 01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:44,239 and little trinkets from their life how 2213 01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:45,520 different is that it's 2214 01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:48,080 it's different in some ways but in some 2215 01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:49,600 ways it's not you're right because those 2216 01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,199 are things that 2217 01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:53,280 will bring a certain energy to your desk 2218 01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:54,880 right your family is there 2219 01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:56,239 you're your loved ones you're looking at 2220 01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:57,360 pictures of your loved ones it's 2221 01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:58,800 bringing a certain kind of comforting 2222 01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:01,199 energy positive energy to your desk 2223 01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:03,600 yeah so in that sense you know like you 2224 01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,440 know my altar back here and i have 2225 01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:07,040 like this little deer skull with little 2226 01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:08,800 moths and crystals on him and he's very 2227 01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:09,440 cute 2228 01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:11,760 and candles and you know so those types 2229 01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:13,120 of things like 2230 01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:15,120 they're more decorative than they are or 2231 01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:16,960 anything i mean look we do 2232 01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:19,120 yeah i mean right you want to see him 2233 01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:20,159 he's really cute 2234 01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,189 that's awesome he's got like a quartz 2235 01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:31,600 crystal here he's got some amethyst 2236 01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:34,400 yeah that's cute right so i mean he 2237 01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:34,960 doesn't look 2238 01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:36,960 pressure is that a prague horn is that 2239 01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:38,800 we i think we saw a couple 2240 01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:40,800 it's a little it's a deer of some sort i 2241 01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:42,880 can't remember what kind of deer it is 2242 01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:45,040 i get it from this store in salem where 2243 01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:46,400 they get like all of their 2244 01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:48,560 those fantastically sourced the deer 2245 01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:50,159 store 2246 01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,920 come here for all of your deer needs 2247 01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:53,600 you're right yes 2248 01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,360 for all of your bone needs um yeah 2249 01:18:02,550 --> 01:18:01,199 but yeah so you know something like that 2250 01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:02,560 like 2251 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:04,320 some witches would argue and i and i 2252 01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,400 would agree like there's the energy of 2253 01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:08,400 the stones there's the energy of the 2254 01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,199 deer 2255 01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:11,280 you know that kind of add to this like 2256 01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:12,800 similar to a picture of your family 2257 01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:14,159 member you know it adds this 2258 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:16,560 like positive energy to it the the only 2259 01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,440 difference is 2260 01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:19,920 is that the altar is where i would do my 2261 01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:21,760 magical workings whereas a desk is where 2262 01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:23,679 you would just do your kind of like 2263 01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:26,320 day-to-day office work so in that sense 2264 01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:27,120 it's similar 2265 01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:29,760 yeah whatever you do no judgment on my 2266 01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:30,159 part 2267 01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:31,840 you know sometimes there's a computer 2268 01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:33,760 and you know you're home alone i mean 2269 01:18:38,149 --> 01:18:36,320 it's a different energy you know that's 2270 01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:38,159 super powerful 2271 01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:39,600 you're a witch too and you didn't even 2272 01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:41,120 know it some which is masturbation 2273 01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,400 propulsion technology 2274 01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,560 i practice at least four minutes a day 2275 01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:46,320 hey there's sex magics though 2276 01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:49,840 you could yes yeah so i mean what you're 2277 01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:50,320 saying is 2278 01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:53,199 it's it's all focused so like where 2279 01:18:55,990 --> 01:18:53,600 where 2280 01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:56,000 this normalized idea of of putting this 2281 01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:57,360 the things that make you feel good it's 2282 01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:59,040 just the most rudimentary thing like i 2283 01:19:02,149 --> 01:18:59,920 love looking 2284 01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:02,159 at at uh at photos of loved ones i 2285 01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,920 honestly my computers take up too much 2286 01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:06,000 space on my desk but like 2287 01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,880 like my wife has a has a great knack of 2288 01:19:11,590 --> 01:19:10,480 like decorating her desk with like nice 2289 01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:11,600 little plants and some 2290 01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:13,440 photos and i'm like oh babe it feels so 2291 01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:14,960 nice in here 2292 01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:16,480 like that's why because you like she 2293 01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,239 surrounds herself with with these good 2294 01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:20,159 energies and being able to articulate 2295 01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:20,880 that and 2296 01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:25,280 mean that i think that's 2297 01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:27,840 i think we're speaking the same language 2298 01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,199 same language different words 2299 01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:31,840 yeah it's just you know like aesthetics 2300 01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:33,600 so there is such a thing as a witchy 2301 01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:34,800 aesthetic some people 2302 01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:36,480 and and some people in the witchy 2303 01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:38,239 community like have an issue with 2304 01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:39,360 aesthetic witches 2305 01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,960 which is basically just that it's 2306 01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:42,719 someone who likes to look like they're a 2307 01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:44,080 witch but they don't necessarily 2308 01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:44,800 practice 2309 01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:46,400 but they decorate their home to look 2310 01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,920 like this you know like 2311 01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,360 they like to be surrounded by that 2312 01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:51,520 witchy aesthetic and i have no problem 2313 01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:52,560 with that because i think 2314 01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:54,320 you know the more people that get into 2315 01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:56,560 it in any way normalizes it 2316 01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,880 because it is very it's not it's not 2317 01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:00,000 scary it's not 2318 01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:02,159 there are some things that okay might be 2319 01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:04,239 a little bit scary to like for sure 2320 01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:07,440 if they don't understand it but um 2321 01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:09,360 yeah so it's just surrounding yourself 2322 01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,480 with the like 2323 01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:12,800 a certain energy yeah and decorating 2324 01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:14,800 your house is the same thing 2325 01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,360 one of my favorite representations of a 2326 01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:19,280 witch is from the 2327 01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:21,840 disney classic bed knobs and broomsticks 2328 01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:23,199 i don't know if you've ever seen it 2329 01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,719 i saw it when i was a kid i don't 2330 01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:26,400 remember though okay remind me 2331 01:20:29,830 --> 01:20:28,719 oh i loved it man like uh so it was 2332 01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:29,840 about this like 2333 01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:32,639 this family it was like right after i 2334 01:20:36,310 --> 01:20:32,960 guess 2335 01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:36,320 like world war ii and uh they had uh 2336 01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:38,800 they were they sent these kids um to 2337 01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,360 foster 2338 01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:41,600 homes and they ended up getting sent to 2339 01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:43,679 this this witch's house 2340 01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:46,800 and she was like you know i didn't order 2341 01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:48,960 any kids 2342 01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:50,480 they're like well we're just placing 2343 01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:52,320 kids in homes right now sorry your name 2344 01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:53,760 came up on the list 2345 01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:56,320 and she's like well great okay well then 2346 01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:57,520 you just stay here 2347 01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:58,960 and the kids are like you know they 2348 01:21:02,149 --> 01:21:00,719 don't know that she's a witch but 2349 01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:02,159 one night they look out the window and 2350 01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:03,760 they see her flying her broom and 2351 01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:04,880 they're like wow that's 2352 01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:07,199 that's that's insane and so she puts 2353 01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:08,480 this little spell 2354 01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:11,440 on the on the bed knob of the bed you 2355 01:21:14,629 --> 01:21:11,920 know 2356 01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:14,639 and uh they end up like activating 2357 01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:16,719 activating the the bed and the bed 2358 01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,199 picks them up guys right the bed flies 2359 01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:21,120 yeah and takes them down into like this 2360 01:21:24,070 --> 01:21:23,440 crazy like cartoon world and they like 2361 01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:24,080 you know 2362 01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:27,440 typical disney movie but like i 2363 01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,040 always love that because it's like one 2364 01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:30,960 of those like the representation of like 2365 01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:32,639 the not scary witch right 2366 01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:34,719 you know it's just a very that sounds 2367 01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:35,760 like a fun time 2368 01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:37,920 it is a fun time i'm having fun just 2369 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,950 hello 2370 01:21:47,350 --> 01:21:45,040 yeah i used to love bed knobs and 2371 01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,360 broomsticks it was such a cool movie 2372 01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:49,360 that's awesome i'll have to rewatch that 2373 01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:50,800 i loved it as a kid but i don't really 2374 01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,480 remember a ton of it i just remember the 2375 01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:54,159 bed flying i do remember that 2376 01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:57,440 yeah yeah it's super cool so like when 2377 01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,000 witches 2378 01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:00,480 use uh certain ingredients and things 2379 01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,080 yes have those like 2380 01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,320 have those ingredients like upgraded or 2381 01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:06,239 changed throughout history or like 2382 01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,560 people still using like i have newt and 2383 01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:10,400 like the tongue over well eye of newt is 2384 01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:12,239 actually juniper berries 2385 01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:14,880 um it's not really an eye of a newt it's 2386 01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:15,280 not 2387 01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:18,000 no yeah i mean we do use some some of us 2388 01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:19,760 i i do so not every which 2389 01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:21,760 feels comfortable doing it um but some 2390 01:22:24,149 --> 01:22:23,679 do use animal parts like i'll use snake 2391 01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,159 skin 2392 01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:26,400 in some of my oils or just even use 2393 01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:27,360 snake skin in 2394 01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,400 in different like in different ways um 2395 01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:32,159 so yeah i mean there are some animal 2396 01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:33,600 parts if you want to 2397 01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:36,400 right yeah like i have a death oil 2398 01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:37,520 that's pretty gross 2399 01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,960 like it's like our dirt and dead bugs 2400 01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,440 and you know it's a little nasty it's 2401 01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:44,960 not one that you want to be like 2402 01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:46,639 putting your hands into it's kind of 2403 01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:49,040 like oh let me use the dropper on this 2404 01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:50,480 nasty thing but 2405 01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:51,920 you know it has its uses when you want 2406 01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:54,639 to end something you use the death oil 2407 01:22:58,629 --> 01:22:56,719 so it sounds scary but not necessarily i 2408 01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:58,639 mean you could use it for other things 2409 01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:58,960 but 2410 01:23:02,950 --> 01:23:01,920 right let's just end things we'll say 2411 01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:02,960 that 2412 01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:07,040 so what is the history behind like 2413 01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:10,560 in in in current and current times i 2414 01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:10,960 mean 2415 01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:12,960 you know you you go to halloween parties 2416 01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:14,159 and and you see 2417 01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:16,639 the witch like what's the history 2418 01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:17,600 between 2419 01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:20,320 behind like the broom the hat the 2420 01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:21,199 cauldron 2421 01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,639 and you know what i'm saying like 2422 01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:24,159 cleaning supplies yeah the cleaning 2423 01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:25,760 supplies like what's up 2424 01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:28,800 like what's up there is a history with 2425 01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:29,840 the broom 2426 01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:31,360 um it's interesting now because we think 2427 01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:32,880 of a witch flying on a broom 2428 01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:34,800 and you know it's very cute and whatever 2429 01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:36,400 and i have like my broom right here you 2430 01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:37,840 can't really see all of it 2431 01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:41,520 um but historically the broom was used 2432 01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:42,320 in a very 2433 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:44,719 interesting manner so there is such a 2434 01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:46,800 thing as a flying ointment or 2435 01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:50,239 flying oil and oftentimes it would have 2436 01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:53,199 psychedelic components and so they would 2437 01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:53,840 use 2438 01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:57,280 a broom and coat the end of it 2439 01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:00,320 with the flying ointment 2440 01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:03,600 yeah and insert it into certain places 2441 01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:06,880 and uh and basically absorb it and 2442 01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:09,679 kind of have a psychedelic reaction so 2443 01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:10,080 yeah 2444 01:24:14,830 --> 01:24:11,600 it's what you're thinking it's what 2445 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,910 dude 2446 01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:19,830 do i have a room i do it's right here i 2447 01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:21,679 don't use it for that purpose but yes i 2448 01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:23,120 do have one 2449 01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:25,520 mostly my cat shoes on it really lynn 2450 01:24:31,210 --> 01:24:27,120 just hangs out in a room and like 2451 01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:35,350 [Laughter] 2452 01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:37,199 they did do that and it was kind of you 2453 01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:38,719 know it was another way of you know 2454 01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:39,120 there are 2455 01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:40,400 like cultures throughout the world that 2456 01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,639 use psychedelics to have spiritual 2457 01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,199 you know quests or spiritual journeys or 2458 01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,120 spiritual experiences it was another 2459 01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:48,880 form of that it was just a very 2460 01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:53,360 um interesting way of going about 2461 01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:55,679 it yeah definitely definitely i mean 2462 01:24:59,830 --> 01:24:57,920 like you hear about the oracle of delphi 2463 01:25:02,229 --> 01:24:59,840 and like the gases that would come up 2464 01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:02,239 from the cave and she would trip out 2465 01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:04,639 and you hear about like moses and like 2466 01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:05,840 the acacia bush 2467 01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:08,480 has like moses a high amount of dmt in 2468 01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:23,590 [Laughter] 2469 01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:26,950 ah that's moses dude he mostly remembers 2470 01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:30,080 moses party at heart 2471 01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:32,159 they all did back then man like yeah i 2472 01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,120 mean what else was there to do 2473 01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,040 hey spending time in the middle east did 2474 01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:39,280 you ever hear the account that moses 2475 01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:42,560 was an albino child i didn't 2476 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,199 no that's interesting so apparently 2477 01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:47,040 there's like this historical record that 2478 01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,960 goes back like in ethiopia they 2479 01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:50,960 supposedly have like the original form 2480 01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,960 of the bible like all intact and they 2481 01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:54,239 talk about how 2482 01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:56,159 the reason that moses was picked up by 2483 01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:57,920 the pharaoh was because 2484 01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:00,960 he was an albino child and the 2485 01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:04,000 and where he grew up they were afraid 2486 01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:04,480 that 2487 01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:07,120 he would be outcast and so they sent him 2488 01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:08,239 down the river 2489 01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:12,239 and then like the pharaoh found him or 2490 01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:13,840 his wife found him picked them up and 2491 01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:15,679 was like oh my goodness but at the time 2492 01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,040 the egyptians had 2493 01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:19,520 had found like fair skin to be a sign of 2494 01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:20,400 the gods 2495 01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,400 and so they picked moses up and they 2496 01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:24,080 cared for moses because they thought he 2497 01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:25,679 was a gift by the gods 2498 01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:28,480 so you're saying he was a ginger i don't 2499 01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:30,639 know if he's ginger but 2500 01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:32,400 he might have had like some red eyes oh 2501 01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,840 did you say ginger or did you say 2502 01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:35,360 i'll buy no no i said i'll buy that my 2503 01:26:40,149 --> 01:26:37,679 bad dude you switched that 2504 01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:40,159 i mean they're still very pale but no 2505 01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:40,880 right now 2506 01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:43,280 yeah different color hair yeah that's 2507 01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,159 interesting though 2508 01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:46,239 yeah i didn't know if you heard that in 2509 01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:48,000 your middle east travels 2510 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:50,239 no i hadn't i hadn't i lived in saudi 2511 01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:51,199 arabia 2512 01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:53,440 so i wasn't kind of in the absolute you 2513 01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:54,800 were a party 2514 01:26:58,430 --> 01:26:56,800 oh yeah you were you were driving 2515 01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:58,440 lamborghinis and hanging out in 2516 01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:00,400 skyscrapers right 2517 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,350 that was me 2518 01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:13,110 you got me right 2519 01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,840 in the lamborghini with a shake at 13. 2520 01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:17,199 yeah 2521 01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:20,320 women to start driving 2522 01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:23,040 and it becomes saudi arabia awesome yeah 2523 01:27:25,510 --> 01:27:23,360 so 2524 01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,520 that's a that's a leg up for women i 2525 01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:27,280 gotta say it was nice to have a driver 2526 01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:29,280 drive us around everywhere too like 2527 01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:31,840 a bit now i mean having the ability to 2528 01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:33,600 drive i'm perfectly fine having someone 2529 01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:35,040 drive me around if they want to 2530 01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:38,719 that's great just call me miss daisy 2531 01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,280 right yeah they had guys like they had 2532 01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:43,199 men employed on so we didn't 2533 01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:44,800 we lived on an air force base but they 2534 01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:46,000 called it a compound there and there 2535 01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:47,199 were a bunch of different 2536 01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:49,280 um it was a very international community 2537 01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:50,639 like i went to an international school 2538 01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:52,560 so i went to kids from like africa 2539 01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:53,920 there was a lot of canadians because 2540 01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:56,239 they um canada bell 2541 01:28:00,070 --> 01:27:59,040 provided the like telephone lines in 2542 01:28:01,510 --> 01:28:00,080 saudi arabia so they 2543 01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:01,520 imported kind of like people that could 2544 01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:02,639 do different things from different 2545 01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:03,600 places 2546 01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:06,000 and um so i lived on the compound and 2547 01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:07,440 the american compound 2548 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:10,080 and they had men specifically employed 2549 01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:11,760 to be drivers for the wives while the 2550 01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:13,040 husbands were at work 2551 01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:14,400 so if you needed to go somewhere you 2552 01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:15,760 just call up and say i need the driver 2553 01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:17,840 to take me out to the store or whatever 2554 01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,679 hey that's fine with me who would have 2555 01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:21,440 thought that that uh 2556 01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:23,679 the saudis invented uber before we even 2557 01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:25,280 knew it it's true yeah you just called 2558 01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:31,830 that's a way better system if you ask me 2559 01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:33,199 i think so right you don't have to deal 2560 01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:35,440 with the driving yourself that's awesome 2561 01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:38,320 especially in massachusetts uh uh is it 2562 01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:39,040 bad 2563 01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,040 oh well massachusetts drivers are called 2564 01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,520 holes so if that gives you an idea 2565 01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:44,960 yes it's a very aggressive form of 2566 01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:47,440 driving but once you get it down it 2567 01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,560 actually it works 2568 01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,159 you know but yeah it's a very aggressive 2569 01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:52,719 form of driving 2570 01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:54,560 i'm looking at uh i'm looking at this 2571 01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:56,159 this little thing you have on the wall 2572 01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:58,560 back there those are those oils of some 2573 01:29:02,229 --> 01:28:59,760 sort or 2574 01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:02,239 like this right yeah yeah yeah they're 2575 01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:04,080 essential oils 2576 01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:06,080 so no like witchy oils or just like 2577 01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:07,120 smell good no 2578 01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:10,159 i mean i have like witchy oils like on 2579 01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:10,560 the 2580 01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:14,880 oil 2581 01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:17,840 it's got some snake skin in there 2582 01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:18,719 cinnamon 2583 01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:20,639 what is that what what is something that 2584 01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:22,960 that would be used for 2585 01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:26,080 actually like a 2586 01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:28,960 hoodoo law um zambala he's kind of like 2587 01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:29,920 a snake 2588 01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:32,159 snake god like a demigod sort of a thing 2589 01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:34,239 um it would just add power to whatever 2590 01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:35,360 it is you're doing it would 2591 01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,480 enhance we are massless yes yes 2592 01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:40,800 power to the mass all right um it just 2593 01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:42,639 would enhance like the power of a spell 2594 01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:44,000 or you could use it for protective 2595 01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:45,600 energy as well it just depends on what 2596 01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:46,400 you're 2597 01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:47,920 have you ever seen an apparition or a 2598 01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:50,400 ghost yes yes i have 2599 01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:52,800 i've grown up with like spirits around 2600 01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:53,600 me i 2601 01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:56,560 okay so usually i can hear them i can 2602 01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:57,360 sense them 2603 01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:59,360 every now and then i've seen them i 2604 01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:01,040 prefer not to see them if 2605 01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:03,440 i don't have to what do you see do you 2606 01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:04,960 see a dark 2607 01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:07,280 uh shadowy figure or a lighter i see a 2608 01:30:11,270 --> 01:30:09,360 person like a full body apparently 2609 01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:11,280 like a person yeah like the worst one 2610 01:30:14,709 --> 01:30:12,960 that ever happened and i usually yell at 2611 01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,719 them if they do something that like 2612 01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,480 i'm not crazy about like the bathroom is 2613 01:30:19,910 --> 01:30:18,320 off limits don't come to me while i'm in 2614 01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:19,920 the bathroom that's just private time 2615 01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:20,560 come on now 2616 01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:26,149 don't don't mess with that championship 2617 01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:27,440 let me have a chat 2618 01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:29,840 you're a champion of that of that super 2619 01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,199 bowl yes 2620 01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:33,840 yes but like the worst one ever was when 2621 01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:36,080 i was driving in my car one time 2622 01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:38,080 and i was adjusting my rear view mirror 2623 01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:39,440 and you probably see where this is going 2624 01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:41,040 and in my rear view mirror i see like a 2625 01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:43,040 teenage kid sitting in my back seat 2626 01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:46,400 and i was like oh no no no that is not 2627 01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:46,960 cool 2628 01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:48,960 don't do that one whoa yeah that one 2629 01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:50,880 freaked me out probably more than any of 2630 01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:51,440 them 2631 01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:53,040 i wouldn't i wouldn't make a connection 2632 01:30:57,990 --> 01:30:54,960 just see what you say so i'll uh we 2633 01:30:59,189 --> 01:30:58,000 we i had a guest on this was a long time 2634 01:31:02,149 --> 01:30:59,199 ago but it was a 2635 01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:02,159 a uh this woman i'm i forgive me i i 2636 01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:02,800 don't remember 2637 01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:04,239 her name but her book was called 2638 01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:06,400 abducted and furious and 2639 01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:09,120 her whole uh outlook on it was like look 2640 01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:10,560 you don't have to 2641 01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:13,440 be abducted by aliens you can you have 2642 01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:15,120 power to say no 2643 01:31:20,709 --> 01:31:18,639 and that i thought was really compelling 2644 01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:20,719 and ever since then i've like used that 2645 01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:22,159 practice even when i get like 2646 01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:24,000 dude like we talk about aliens i have 2647 01:31:28,229 --> 01:31:26,880 two ghosts dude i use it all the time 2648 01:31:28,709 --> 01:31:28,239 and it's so helpful because i used to be 2649 01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:28,719 like 2650 01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:30,880 i turned the light off and i sprint my 2651 01:31:34,870 --> 01:31:33,440 bedroom like 2652 01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:34,880 and i get so creeped out but all the 2653 01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:37,760 time and we had such a great combo like 2654 01:31:40,870 --> 01:31:39,840 so do you do you use that practice do 2655 01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:40,880 you say like 2656 01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:43,199 hey can't [\h__\h] with me like yeah with 2657 01:31:47,189 --> 01:31:44,320 ghosts i do 2658 01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:47,199 with aliens i think it depends on the 2659 01:31:49,990 --> 01:31:48,320 type of alien 2660 01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:50,000 some are going to be more respectful of 2661 01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:51,440 that than others 2662 01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:54,239 just from like what people have told me 2663 01:31:57,030 --> 01:31:55,040 i haven't ever 2664 01:31:58,870 --> 01:31:57,040 like tried it myself because i've never 2665 01:32:02,470 --> 01:31:58,880 had any like 2666 01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:02,480 conscious like alien experiences 2667 01:32:06,629 --> 01:32:04,960 the the first one that i ever had was 2668 01:32:08,310 --> 01:32:06,639 one of those it was like a very lucid 2669 01:32:10,629 --> 01:32:08,320 dream and it was so much so 2670 01:32:12,390 --> 01:32:10,639 you know i saw this like mantis being 2671 01:32:14,629 --> 01:32:12,400 and these two little grays 2672 01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:14,639 and i woke up and this was the first 2673 01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:16,239 time i ever had anything like that 2674 01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:18,320 happen and i woke up and it was so 2675 01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:19,920 vivid that i was expecting them to be 2676 01:32:22,870 --> 01:32:21,360 standing there in my room 2677 01:32:24,709 --> 01:32:22,880 like i was just looking at my doorway 2678 01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:24,719 like are they coming in like 2679 01:32:28,950 --> 01:32:27,199 what just happened here yeah so that's 2680 01:32:32,229 --> 01:32:28,960 something i was just like 2681 01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:32,239 you did yes i feel like i feel like i 2682 01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:33,440 don't know about you guys but 2683 01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:36,560 like you know you you hear like you have 2684 01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:38,320 the other voice in your head 2685 01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:40,800 you know that like talks and stuff yeah 2686 01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:41,440 my 2687 01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:48,560 it's a it's a black lady and i don't i 2688 01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:49,679 don't know why but like 2689 01:32:53,030 --> 01:32:52,400 because i know like like i've done the 2690 01:32:55,270 --> 01:32:53,040 whole like 2691 01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:55,280 don't mess with me thing like and i like 2692 01:32:59,030 --> 01:32:56,880 if i get this creepy feeling 2693 01:33:01,270 --> 01:32:59,040 like in my head what you're doing in my 2694 01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:01,280 head i'm like 2695 01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:03,920 not tonight like and i can't stop it 2696 01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:05,440 like i want to just be like 2697 01:33:08,870 --> 01:33:07,199 no please don't come in my room but it 2698 01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:08,880 always comes out like 2699 01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:11,360 oh my god i channeled you one time then 2700 01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:12,000 because 2701 01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:13,920 i was falling asleep this was in my old 2702 01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:15,199 house and there was like 2703 01:33:18,310 --> 01:33:16,800 i don't know what the people and i was 2704 01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:18,320 renting it and like i don't know what 2705 01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:19,679 the people in there were doing before me 2706 01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:20,800 but there were like 2707 01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:23,199 crazy spirits in that place it was just 2708 01:33:25,750 --> 01:33:25,120 like a spirit highway like they would be 2709 01:33:27,590 --> 01:33:25,760 coming through 2710 01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:27,600 all the time some of them are nice like 2711 01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:29,120 totally fine and i don't mind like the 2712 01:33:31,189 --> 01:33:30,560 nice ones like hang out whatever i don't 2713 01:33:34,870 --> 01:33:31,199 care if they're 2714 01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:34,880 like nice but this one i was like laying 2715 01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:35,280 down 2716 01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:36,560 ready to go to sleep you know when you 2717 01:33:40,390 --> 01:33:38,480 just like you get comfy in bed you close 2718 01:33:42,550 --> 01:33:40,400 your eyes you're like ah 2719 01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:42,560 the day's over i'm really like looking 2720 01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:43,920 forward to falling asleep 2721 01:33:47,830 --> 01:33:45,360 and i was just laying there all comfy 2722 01:33:49,910 --> 01:33:47,840 and snuggly in my bed and in my ear 2723 01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:49,920 there's this deep man's voice that goes 2724 01:33:53,470 --> 01:33:50,800 wake up 2725 01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:53,480 and i was like oh hell no 2726 01:33:59,350 --> 01:33:55,840 [Laughter] 2727 01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:59,360 i was like ouch like i was channeling 2728 01:34:02,790 --> 01:34:00,800 your inner voice 2729 01:34:04,310 --> 01:34:02,800 you must have been i swear anytime i get 2730 01:34:06,310 --> 01:34:04,320 scary like if i go to like a haunted 2731 01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:06,320 house or like during halloween or like 2732 01:34:09,669 --> 01:34:07,520 i'm scared of my home 2733 01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:09,679 or like if something creepy how happens 2734 01:34:12,790 --> 01:34:11,440 out in the woods it's always this black 2735 01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:12,800 lady that comes in my head 2736 01:34:16,629 --> 01:34:15,360 and like tells everybody to go away and 2737 01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:16,639 i feel like it's always because like 2738 01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:18,400 they're the most serious and scary right 2739 01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:19,440 you're not gonna mess with the black 2740 01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:20,719 ladies telling you to knock it off 2741 01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:21,360 you're like yeah 2742 01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:23,360 yes i am you don't think i might listen 2743 01:34:26,870 --> 01:34:24,960 to what they say so i think like 2744 01:34:27,430 --> 01:34:26,880 internally like i'm internalizing that 2745 01:34:29,350 --> 01:34:27,440 like 2746 01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:29,360 yeah these ghosts are totally gonna 2747 01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:31,440 leave me 2748 01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:33,120 like are these aliens they're not gonna 2749 01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:34,639 mess with that well like 2750 01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:37,199 dude like that it just exudes like 2751 01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:38,800 confidence but also there's some humor 2752 01:34:43,109 --> 01:34:39,600 to it it's like 2753 01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:43,119 right oh no yeah 2754 01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:45,760 like i i love that i'm going to use that 2755 01:34:48,709 --> 01:34:46,719 yeah someone loves that 2756 01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:48,719 somebody was asking about uh sleep 2757 01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:49,840 paralysis 2758 01:34:54,310 --> 01:34:52,000 and they see mimics and they talk to 2759 01:34:54,950 --> 01:34:54,320 them can can you expand on what a mimic 2760 01:34:58,390 --> 01:34:54,960 is 2761 01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,400 mimic so like 2762 01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:00,880 we have that are they talking about like 2763 01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:03,040 a ghost that mimics the voice of someone 2764 01:35:05,590 --> 01:35:03,440 else 2765 01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:05,600 i'm not sure he mimics so maybe they 2766 01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:06,719 mean someone that 2767 01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:08,400 looks like someone they know but isn't 2768 01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:10,400 that person i'm not sure what i mean by 2769 01:35:15,030 --> 01:35:10,960 that 2770 01:35:17,030 --> 01:35:15,040 dude tell us what a mimic is and maybe 2771 01:35:18,229 --> 01:35:17,040 we can kind of narrow that down 2772 01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:18,239 right and maybe it's just a different 2773 01:35:20,950 --> 01:35:19,840 name for something else but i'm not 2774 01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:20,960 quite sure 2775 01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:24,400 yeah yeah that's interesting sleeper out 2776 01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:25,920 this is an interesting phenomenon i 2777 01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:28,239 don't know what i quite think about it 2778 01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:31,440 because like i could see from like a 2779 01:35:35,109 --> 01:35:33,360 neurological perspective that it could 2780 01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:35,119 be something but i also could see 2781 01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:38,080 that that could just be a medical way of 2782 01:35:40,629 --> 01:35:39,600 explaining something that they can't 2783 01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:40,639 explain like 2784 01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:43,360 oh oh yeah that is sleep paralysis you 2785 01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:44,159 know it's just like 2786 01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:45,600 right people are reporting this 2787 01:35:48,550 --> 01:35:47,040 phenomenon and they're kind of like okay 2788 01:35:49,750 --> 01:35:48,560 well we gotta give it a name so we can 2789 01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:49,760 tell them something 2790 01:35:52,790 --> 01:35:51,840 yeah but yeah so it's an interesting 2791 01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:52,800 phenomenon 2792 01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:54,480 yeah people always talk about also like 2793 01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:56,400 during sleep paralysis they'll see like 2794 01:36:03,189 --> 01:36:00,000 the hat man yeah slenderman that's 2795 01:36:06,229 --> 01:36:03,199 crazy man have you had 2796 01:36:07,750 --> 01:36:06,239 sleep paralysis man i don't think i've 2797 01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:07,760 had sleep paralysis 2798 01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:10,400 oh like no yeah i think i would know if 2799 01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:11,920 i had sleep paralysis 2800 01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:14,560 but yeah no i'm either asleep or or like 2801 01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:16,960 awake and i hope by saying that i'm not 2802 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:17,840 like putting forth 2803 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:25,850 right right joe's gonna be like hell no 2804 01:36:25,850 --> 01:36:36,629 [Laughter] 2805 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:38,470 and again christians i love you i have 2806 01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:40,000 nothing against christianity i just 2807 01:36:43,189 --> 01:36:41,520 thought this was funny because i 2808 01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:43,199 have like this ridiculously weird sense 2809 01:36:47,189 --> 01:36:45,199 of humor in one of the shops in salem 2810 01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:47,199 they have this little cartoony 2811 01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:49,600 baphomet on the shirt and it says not 2812 01:36:55,270 --> 01:36:50,800 today jesus 2813 01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:55,280 and i was like yes that's hilarious 2814 01:37:00,390 --> 01:36:58,639 that is amazing oh my gosh man 2815 01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:00,400 this is like this cute little like 2816 01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:03,520 baphomet it's awesome 2817 01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:06,080 it's like a little goat i have a little 2818 01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:07,280 baby 2819 01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:09,040 sitting here yeah just looks like you'd 2820 01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,440 be in a cartoon yeah yeah hilarious 2821 01:37:16,270 --> 01:37:13,199 he has like slices of onions or chicken 2822 01:37:20,790 --> 01:37:17,669 [Laughter] 2823 01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:20,800 he's just like a party tray add things 2824 01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:21,760 onto him 2825 01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:23,040 he's like a little hat with chips and 2826 01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,960 sauce on the brim 2827 01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:26,480 you would be the popular person at the 2828 01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:28,159 party if you showed up with like a like 2829 01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:30,560 a cheese tray that was just baphomet 2830 01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,800 oh my god that would be hilarious oh 2831 01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:34,800 yeah they have like he's holding like a 2832 01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:36,080 sacrificial altar 2833 01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:38,000 like it's just got like little cheeses 2834 01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:39,440 and sausages on it 2835 01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:41,119 they have oh you guys would probably 2836 01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:43,119 love it so in salem they have the 2837 01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:45,040 satanic temple and that's not the church 2838 01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:45,679 of satan 2839 01:37:51,669 --> 01:37:49,040 again words sound scary it's it's not 2840 01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:51,679 but they have this giant baphomet statue 2841 01:37:53,669 --> 01:37:52,560 that they actually 2842 01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:53,679 constructed so they do a lot of 2843 01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,080 political like civil rights work 2844 01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:58,400 um and so there was i can't remember 2845 01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:59,600 what state it was you guys might 2846 01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:01,440 remember because it was down south 2847 01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:05,040 um and i think it may be was it like 2848 01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:06,719 arkansas where they wanted to erect the 2849 01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:08,080 ten commandments 2850 01:38:11,189 --> 01:38:10,800 like monument outside of the state house 2851 01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:11,199 yeah 2852 01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:15,440 temple was like well 2853 01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,800 you know separation of church and state 2854 01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:18,239 what the heck is going on here so they 2855 01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:19,600 said well if you're gonna 2856 01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:21,520 you're gonna do this we're gonna erect a 2857 01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:23,600 monument of baphomet right next to it 2858 01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:26,400 so they created this giant like bigger 2859 01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,280 than life 2860 01:38:31,350 --> 01:38:29,760 baphomet and he's he's sitting there 2861 01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:31,360 he's got like a little boy on one side 2862 01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:33,600 and a little girl on one side 2863 01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:35,440 and they have it at the satanic temple 2864 01:38:37,510 --> 01:38:37,199 you could sit on it take pictures with 2865 01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:37,520 it 2866 01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:44,709 i think people should just be able to do 2867 01:38:49,510 --> 01:38:46,480 as long as they're not hurting anybody 2868 01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:49,520 like just i think it's uh yeah as long 2869 01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:51,199 as you don't walk through my yard 2870 01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:54,800 like yeah you do not that is augustine 2871 01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:57,199 i get off my lawn that is that is early 2872 01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:58,000 summer late 2873 01:39:02,070 --> 01:39:00,639 augustine early rain season here enough 2874 01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:02,080 in georgetown texas 2875 01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:03,600 no way i'm gonna win yard of the month 2876 01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:05,440 with your goddamn footprints walking 2877 01:39:12,310 --> 01:39:11,510 so uh sleep i just want to say sleep 2878 01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:12,320 paralysis 2879 01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:15,119 i have had one or well two experiences 2880 01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,400 one of them is vastly different 2881 01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:18,080 but i i equate them both because i 2882 01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,159 experienced both the second one was way 2883 01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:22,239 more intense but the first one was 2884 01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:25,760 insane i woke up and could not move my 2885 01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:26,239 body 2886 01:39:29,590 --> 01:39:29,040 and was like float i could hear wind 2887 01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:29,600 like 2888 01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:31,920 howling around my body and my face it 2889 01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:32,639 was so 2890 01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:35,360 loud it was crazy and uh yeah i could 2891 01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:37,040 like feel my body like lifting off the 2892 01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:38,639 bed and then the next thing i knew i was 2893 01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:40,960 like standing at my uh my kitchen 2894 01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:43,119 sink and that was really weird i've 2895 01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:44,480 never slept 2896 01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:47,760 before whoa whoa okay so you 2897 01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:50,560 had like you remember laying there and 2898 01:39:53,030 --> 01:39:52,159 then all of a sudden you're standing at 2899 01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:53,040 your kitchen sink 2900 01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:56,239 well i i was physically i remember 2901 01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:58,320 feeling this wind and i told you this 2902 01:40:03,669 --> 01:39:59,760 story before but like yeah 2903 01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:05,270 and i could feel it like i could feel it 2904 01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,560 in my hair but i couldn't move my body 2905 01:40:08,550 --> 01:40:08,080 all i could do is like look around so 2906 01:40:09,830 --> 01:40:08,560 like i 2907 01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:09,840 i could see everything it was just dark 2908 01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:11,679 i didn't see any lights or anything 2909 01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:13,199 it was just really [\h__\h] weird it only 2910 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:15,199 lasted like 10 seconds and i could just 2911 01:40:18,709 --> 01:40:17,920 i i knew that there was some i couldn't 2912 01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:18,719 see it because i 2913 01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:21,360 i couldn't move my head but i i uh i 2914 01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:22,000 could tell 2915 01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:25,040 that there was no uh pressure on my back 2916 01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:26,480 like i was definitely 2917 01:40:29,830 --> 01:40:28,560 felt it felt in my head i felt like i 2918 01:40:32,470 --> 01:40:29,840 was being lifted and and then 2919 01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:32,480 my next memory is it goes from that and 2920 01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:34,159 then i'm standing in my kitchen seeing 2921 01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:37,199 with a glass a glass full of water 2922 01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:39,679 uh and i'm drinking that glass of water 2923 01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:41,119 so that's the only time 2924 01:40:44,470 --> 01:40:43,280 it happened once but i mean that sleep 2925 01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,480 paralysis [\h__\h] is 2926 01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:46,320 is is no joke it was i was like trying 2927 01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:48,159 to scream in my sleep like it was 2928 01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:49,280 i couldn't make a noise it was 2929 01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:51,040 terrifying wow well i think that's 2930 01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:52,400 interesting though that you ended up in 2931 01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:54,000 a different place 2932 01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:56,159 yeah you know i used to do regressions 2933 01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:03,590 not today you need 2934 01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:06,639 you need jesus i'll do it i'll do it 2935 01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:09,040 all right i'm so interested in [\h__\h] that 2936 01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:11,199 i don't know about myself it like kind 2937 01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:11,520 of 2938 01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:13,920 bugs me a little bit yeah me too i mean 2939 01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:15,440 yeah that's what i actually that's why i 2940 01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,880 had one done on myself too 2941 01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,239 plus i wanted to see what it was like 2942 01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,159 yeah but then i'm also worried that like 2943 01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:22,719 i'm just like my life is [\h__\h] boring 2944 01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:23,679 and like nothing 2945 01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:25,920 like nothing cool has happened i'm like 2946 01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:28,080 oh man i just wasted like a hundred and 2947 01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:29,600 fifty bucks for you to tell me that 2948 01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:31,199 nothing happened but i also don't wanted 2949 01:41:34,310 --> 01:41:32,880 an aggression to a past life maybe there 2950 01:41:38,629 --> 01:41:34,320 was something a lot more interesting 2951 01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:42,470 oh yeah yeah then i can go to that guy 2952 01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:43,840 in massachusetts and be like i 2953 01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:46,960 actually was a warlock right 2954 01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:51,040 of death yeah so somebody was asking uh 2955 01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:53,119 my wife has seen things throughout her 2956 01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:55,760 life most recently a pinkish orb in our 2957 01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,679 bedroom doorway but in the past you've 2958 01:42:03,109 --> 01:41:59,520 seen full body ghosts 2959 01:42:03,669 --> 01:42:03,119 and rainbows in the house is there any 2960 01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:03,679 like 2961 01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:10,960 ghost 2962 01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:12,960 like if light were to reflect off them 2963 01:42:18,629 --> 01:42:15,040 like a cloud would it make a rainbow 2964 01:42:21,669 --> 01:42:18,639 yeah i mean i mean it's all energy so 2965 01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:21,679 i suppose like the pink orb type thing i 2966 01:42:25,510 --> 01:42:23,760 would assume is just it's energy so it 2967 01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:25,520 could be anything it could be a spirit 2968 01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:27,040 sometimes they just manifest in 2969 01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:29,840 different ways so i don't see why 2970 01:42:33,910 --> 01:42:32,800 you know a rainbow i have heard of 2971 01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:33,920 someone else who 2972 01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:37,360 had and it was more of an et experience 2973 01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,400 and they saw kind of this rainbow being 2974 01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:42,000 in there it was but it wasn't like 2975 01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,320 shaped like a human it wasn't a humanoid 2976 01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:46,080 shape but it was like this 2977 01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:48,560 rainbow type object that had some sort 2978 01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:50,000 of consciousness to it because it was 2979 01:42:52,390 --> 01:42:51,040 moving about 2980 01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,400 but that's the only time i've ever heard 2981 01:42:55,189 --> 01:42:54,400 of a rainbow but that's have you seen 2982 01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:55,199 that episode 2983 01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:58,080 of south park where like they i don't 2984 01:43:02,310 --> 01:42:59,840 know what season it is but they 2985 01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:02,320 uh they find a species of alien that's 2986 01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:04,159 like an entity that can show up to 2987 01:43:08,390 --> 01:43:04,880 whatever 2988 01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:08,400 they they want and no he ends up being 2989 01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:08,800 like 2990 01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:10,380 an ice cream cone 2991 01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:12,320 [Laughter] 2992 01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:14,480 that poops little little little pieces 2993 01:43:19,669 --> 01:43:16,000 little nuggets of ice cream 2994 01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:19,679 he's like [\h__\h] you at me 2995 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:35,189 [Laughter] 2996 01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:36,870 that's my westy's voice by the way is 2997 01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:39,280 cartman i give all my animals voices and 2998 01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:44,310 oh it's a taco that's right caleb thank 2999 01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:45,679 you oh it's taco 3000 01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:48,400 it's a taco that shit's ice cream thank 3001 01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:49,280 you 3002 01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:51,840 of course why wouldn't i i wouldn't have 3003 01:43:54,790 --> 01:43:52,400 known that 3004 01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:54,800 yeah that's why i love going live man 3005 01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:55,440 people are 3006 01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:57,600 on it dude they are it's like i it's 3007 01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:59,040 like yeah i know and i'm doing like what 3008 01:44:01,830 --> 01:44:00,400 you do i'm always like i know i'm not 3009 01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:01,840 gonna remember this but what if you guys 3010 01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:02,320 will 3011 01:44:05,990 --> 01:44:03,920 ever somebody inevitably always 3012 01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:06,000 remembers that it's great there's this 3013 01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:09,600 old like torn down like shack 3014 01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:13,199 that was uh outside of of my hometown 3015 01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:15,440 and i remember one night we were we were 3016 01:44:19,350 --> 01:44:17,280 just out we were like oh let's go to a 3017 01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:19,360 cemetery let's let's go to this 3018 01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:21,280 this thing is called hoxie bridge where 3019 01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:23,040 these little kids will push your 3020 01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:25,040 car over a bridge and stuff like that in 3021 01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,880 the huddle and like you know we did all 3022 01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:28,400 like this cool stuff with this old 3023 01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:30,159 insane asylum and like 3024 01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,280 then they were like well there's this 3025 01:44:35,109 --> 01:44:33,600 old building out on town like 3026 01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:35,119 nothing happened right but like there 3027 01:44:39,189 --> 01:44:36,880 was like this this little building out 3028 01:44:41,270 --> 01:44:39,199 in town and we had drove out there 3029 01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:41,280 and uh it just looked creepy so we were 3030 01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:42,960 like let's just go look at it 3031 01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:44,719 it's creepy we're in we're doing creepy 3032 01:44:49,430 --> 01:44:46,000 stuff tonight let's go 3033 01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,440 so we did we went in there and there was 3034 01:44:59,590 --> 01:44:51,520 like 3035 01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:59,600 old it was so old and there was a little 3036 01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:01,040 piano in the corner 3037 01:45:06,709 --> 01:45:04,239 and uh how little 3038 01:45:08,149 --> 01:45:06,719 it was probably the size of this desk it 3039 01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:08,159 wasn't like a grand piano 3040 01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:10,639 it was like a small piano it was great 3041 01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:12,880 it was like an old western piano 3042 01:45:18,310 --> 01:45:16,719 yeah yeah and uh we walked in there and 3043 01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:18,320 we're looking around and 3044 01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,080 you know we're like yeah this is creepy 3045 01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:21,679 like yeah nothing's happening 3046 01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:24,719 and as soon as we get ready to leave out 3047 01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:26,560 of this little building 3048 01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:30,320 we hear a chair move and it 3049 01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:33,920 like i don't know like if it like 3050 01:45:37,270 --> 01:45:36,000 like when it hit the piano like 3051 01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:37,280 obviously the piano is going to make 3052 01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:38,080 some noise 3053 01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:40,800 but like this piano made like three 3054 01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,360 different 3055 01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:43,760 notes and it was it was kind of creepy 3056 01:45:48,790 --> 01:45:45,040 it was like 3057 01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:48,800 clink and then and nobody was touching 3058 01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:49,040 that 3059 01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:50,800 and nobody we were all on the way out of 3060 01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:52,400 the door 3061 01:45:56,830 --> 01:45:54,159 pulling their chair up to the piano 3062 01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:58,550 wow that's like if i were a ghost i 3063 01:46:02,629 --> 01:45:59,760 would mess with people 3064 01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:02,639 oh sometimes i wonder i'm like that's 3065 01:46:06,550 --> 01:46:04,560 what they're doing like come on 3066 01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:06,560 the ghost is like i'm gonna scoot this 3067 01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:07,600 chair up 3068 01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,080 up against this i've been i've been 3069 01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:12,159 saving up my afterlife credits for 3070 01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:15,119 months yeah and these people are idiots 3071 01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:16,320 and i cannot 3072 01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:18,400 describe them they want to scare i'll 3073 01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:19,520 give them like 3074 01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,119 i i imagine it's like a point system 3075 01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:23,040 where like the people that don't believe 3076 01:46:26,149 --> 01:46:24,880 like that's worth double so like you get 3077 01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:26,159 half of your credits back 3078 01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:30,960 like like people that are like this 3079 01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:33,840 and you're like oh [\h__\h] give me them 3080 01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:35,520 give me them tokens 3081 01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:37,920 oh [\h__\h] i'm coming to find you guys in 3082 01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,470 amazing so we heard this story there was 3083 01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:50,080 a guy that was talking about he 3084 01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:52,159 had you know abductions and things like 3085 01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:53,760 that and screen memories 3086 01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:56,000 and me and ben always cracked up like 3087 01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:56,800 even though like 3088 01:47:01,350 --> 01:46:59,280 it's not a funny situation like this 3089 01:47:01,990 --> 01:47:01,360 particular story was pretty wild and 3090 01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:02,000 like 3091 01:47:08,550 --> 01:47:07,119 would just totally mess with people 3092 01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:08,560 yeah and i was talking about screen 3093 01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:10,239 memories and how 3094 01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:11,679 like you know sometimes when you see 3095 01:47:15,189 --> 01:47:13,600 these entities they show up as something 3096 01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:15,199 different you view them as like an 3097 01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:18,480 owl or a different area this guy had a 3098 01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:20,239 burrito 3099 01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:22,880 rolling on this floor yeah i swear and 3100 01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:25,440 like he was like 3101 01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:28,560 there was a burrito on my floor 3102 01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:30,719 i don't know he also thought it was 3103 01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:31,840 funny like yeah 3104 01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:34,000 he was funny too how could you not that 3105 01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:35,760 would be a dangerous thing for an alien 3106 01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:38,080 to look like in my room 3107 01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:41,840 yes like you wouldn't even be scared of 3108 01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:43,360 it like you're chasing a burrito down 3109 01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:44,000 the hallway 3110 01:47:50,650 --> 01:47:47,920 oh no it's exactly what i was hungry for 3111 01:47:50,830 --> 01:47:50,660 these dead glassy shark eyes like 3112 01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:50,840 [Music] 3113 01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:52,800 [Laughter] 3114 01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:55,920 the alien's like god damn it now 3115 01:48:00,629 --> 01:47:58,719 he was like taquito yeah he was like the 3116 01:48:01,669 --> 01:48:00,639 new guy on the job and like his alien 3117 01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:01,679 buddies were like oh 3118 01:48:05,590 --> 01:48:03,679 humans are terrified of burritos you 3119 01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:05,600 should be a burrito 3120 01:48:12,070 --> 01:48:07,360 you just showed up as a burrito one day 3121 01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:14,149 that's amazing i love that they knew 3122 01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:16,000 what a burrito was and 3123 01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:18,400 i know it's so crazy awesome you know 3124 01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:19,920 you always hear like aries though 3125 01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:21,920 you hear these accounts of like demanded 3126 01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:23,920 beings like having this like sense of 3127 01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:24,880 humor and like 3128 01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:27,840 people have like you know seen them like 3129 01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:28,800 show up 3130 01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:31,520 and like they're wearing wigs or like 3131 01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:33,440 that's hilarious like someone had that 3132 01:48:36,070 --> 01:48:34,560 but that's awesome 3133 01:48:37,910 --> 01:48:36,080 somebody had like an account of like 3134 01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:37,920 this this mantid and it had like these 3135 01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:39,040 fake lips on 3136 01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:40,880 like and we just thought it was 3137 01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:42,400 hilarious that like 3138 01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,199 it still looks like a mantid it's just 3139 01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:46,960 got a curly blonde wig on 3140 01:48:50,470 --> 01:48:49,119 like or a top hat or like these fake 3141 01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:50,480 lips and you're like what 3142 01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:52,400 what are you doing did now did it have 3143 01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:54,320 the lips and the curly blond way 3144 01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:55,600 kind of look you know go for the whole 3145 01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:58,080 prostitutes so the whole thing was like 3146 01:49:01,270 --> 01:49:00,239 yeah one had a top hat on and the other 3147 01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:01,280 one had a wig 3148 01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:03,679 and these lips on so yeah it was 3149 01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:04,800 together yes 3150 01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:07,199 and it was just like awesome yeah that's 3151 01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:07,920 it's like 3152 01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:10,560 it was it's almost be more creepy like 3153 01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:12,560 no to me i would be like okay we need to 3154 01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:13,280 talk 3155 01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:16,560 explain explain i'm digging this explain 3156 01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:18,560 i'd rather you just show up as a man 3157 01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:20,400 then i can like process but then you're 3158 01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:20,800 like 3159 01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:23,440 what the [\h__\h] is going on here did you 3160 01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:26,239 guys ever see that show people of earth 3161 01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:28,480 yes so that's what it reminds me like 3162 01:49:30,550 --> 01:49:29,679 something like that would have happened 3163 01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:30,560 on that show 3164 01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:33,679 yeah yes that show though 3165 01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:37,280 was i swear to god it was modeled on an 3166 01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:38,960 experience or support group that i 3167 01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:42,080 know the person who ran it well their 3168 01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:44,239 lead person was just like her it was 3169 01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:46,159 amazing i even told her i was like have 3170 01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:47,520 you seen this and she's like 3171 01:49:53,109 --> 01:49:51,440 yeah it's a little familiar yeah yeah 3172 01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:53,119 that's hilarious like when he's drinking 3173 01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:55,360 that that daiquiri or like that 3174 01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:56,880 that margarita and he gets a brain 3175 01:49:59,830 --> 01:49:58,639 freeze for the first time and she's like 3176 01:50:06,790 --> 01:49:59,840 are you okay and he's like 3177 01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:08,950 and there was like that one the the 3178 01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:10,320 alien that was like 3179 01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:11,840 the guy with the white hair and 3180 01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:14,239 everybody was just like okay whatever 3181 01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:16,560 todd or whatever his name was yeah 3182 01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:17,599 there's like 3183 01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:18,960 the nordic he was the one that was 3184 01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:20,400 getting laid all the time that's 3185 01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:21,679 hilarious 3186 01:50:26,229 --> 01:50:24,639 he was like it's like everybody in their 3187 01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:26,239 their vision was like he was like this 3188 01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:27,360 masculine dude 3189 01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:29,679 and like he was actually like karate 3190 01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:30,480 dude 3191 01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:33,679 like me like just like skeleton 3192 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:35,920 well he had that kind of like legolas 3193 01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:38,560 thing going for him you know yeah 3194 01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:41,840 so the women were like hello 3195 01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:45,280 okay so i mean as we're on the topic of 3196 01:50:48,950 --> 01:50:46,800 aliens i i know 3197 01:50:50,470 --> 01:50:48,960 i would i have a i want to ask you what 3198 01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:50,480 we were talking about on facebook how 3199 01:50:55,750 --> 01:50:52,320 are we doing on time and and 3200 01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:55,760 do we need to take a break or okay 3201 01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:58,080 i'm getting sweet because i i as we're 3202 01:51:01,910 --> 01:50:59,840 on the topic of aliens i mean 3203 01:51:02,870 --> 01:51:01,920 i i've got to ask you i mean with your 3204 01:51:05,189 --> 01:51:02,880 experience with 3205 01:51:06,550 --> 01:51:05,199 the free organization we talked about a 3206 01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:06,560 couple of things 3207 01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:09,520 can you kind of go into a little bit uh 3208 01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:11,119 what you can share and what you can't 3209 01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:12,719 uh with your experience with that we 3210 01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:14,719 were talking about uh like as far as 3211 01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:16,800 experiences that i've heard about 3212 01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:18,560 yeah so you you said you would talk to 3213 01:51:22,870 --> 01:51:20,159 some individuals about 3214 01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:22,880 about super soldiers yes i had like i 3215 01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:23,199 think 3216 01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:24,800 two and then after that i was like no 3217 01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:26,560 more super soldiers like they're very 3218 01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:27,280 intense 3219 01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:31,520 common theme with people who get into 3220 01:51:34,310 --> 01:51:32,880 the super soldier thing 3221 01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:34,320 where they get into it for a little bit 3222 01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:36,480 and they're like i have to step away 3223 01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:37,520 from this yeah 3224 01:51:42,550 --> 01:51:40,560 it's a lot it's and they like and i and 3225 01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:42,560 i feel for them because it's like once 3226 01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:44,560 you start talking to them and you listen 3227 01:51:46,870 --> 01:51:44,960 and 3228 01:51:47,990 --> 01:51:46,880 i mean talking to me it was literally 3229 01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:48,000 you know you're getting like free 3230 01:51:51,589 --> 01:51:49,920 therapy really like because i was just 3231 01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:51,599 you know like okay you know like tell me 3232 01:51:53,589 --> 01:51:52,639 a little more about this and how did you 3233 01:51:56,870 --> 01:51:53,599 feel about that and 3234 01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:56,880 you know using my therapy skills and so 3235 01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:59,119 they so i feel for them because they're 3236 01:52:02,149 --> 01:52:01,040 finally like oh finally someone who's to 3237 01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:02,159 listen to me 3238 01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:04,480 but it's very intense energy and it's 3239 01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:06,400 kind of like in your face and like 3240 01:52:08,229 --> 01:52:07,360 i'm going to tell you about what 3241 01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:08,239 happened with this and you're never 3242 01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:10,000 going to you know and it's just like 3243 01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:13,280 all the time and so yeah i had to like i 3244 01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:14,880 was just kind of like oh whoa 3245 01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:16,880 okay i want nothing to do with super 3246 01:52:19,669 --> 01:52:18,719 soldiers and the secret space program 3247 01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:19,679 yeah 3248 01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:21,280 so and i didn't really like talk to 3249 01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:22,719 anybody who dealt with the secret space 3250 01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:24,159 program but for whatever reason i was 3251 01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:24,880 just like uh 3252 01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:26,960 i want nothing to do with that so what 3253 01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:28,000 what was your your 3254 01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:30,159 journey in understanding what the secret 3255 01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:31,199 space program 3256 01:52:34,709 --> 01:52:33,199 was like how did those two connect 3257 01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:34,719 because they i i 3258 01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,679 at that point in time and you kind of 3259 01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:38,880 know there's more to the story but at 3260 01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:39,920 that point in time 3261 01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:43,040 i had no desire to look into the sacred 3262 01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:45,040 space program which is weird because 3263 01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:47,040 i delved into everything because i was 3264 01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:48,560 like well in case somebody talks to me 3265 01:52:50,709 --> 01:52:49,679 about this they need to know what 3266 01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:50,719 they're talking about 3267 01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:52,239 but the secret space program is the one 3268 01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:53,599 thing i wanted nothing to do with so i 3269 01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:55,520 knew very little about it other than 3270 01:52:58,550 --> 01:52:57,040 you know supposedly there was this 3271 01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:58,560 secret space program that was developed 3272 01:53:01,830 --> 01:53:00,239 and is way more advanced than nasa that 3273 01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:01,840 was kind of the extent of what i knew at 3274 01:53:06,390 --> 01:53:03,040 that point in time 3275 01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:06,400 right and so this was based off of 3276 01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:07,440 testimony of 3277 01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:10,000 of multiple individuals that you talk to 3278 01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:11,360 right like 3279 01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:12,719 uh as far as that goes i mean i'd heard 3280 01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:14,560 richard dolan talk a little bit about it 3281 01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:16,080 and so that was kind of like all 3282 01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:17,920 i mean i didn't really i wasn't really 3283 01:53:19,910 --> 01:53:19,040 all that interested in a lot of his 3284 01:53:21,669 --> 01:53:19,920 talks but you know you 3285 01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:21,679 he's around everywhere so you hear right 3286 01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:22,880 things you know you hear them a little 3287 01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:23,440 bit 3288 01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:25,760 we want to party with richie real hard 3289 01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:32,629 richard richard dolan is a very santa a 3290 01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:34,080 member of the community 3291 01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:40,870 have parties seen have you like talked 3292 01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:42,800 to him at conferences and stuff 3293 01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:46,239 no well we've so we set up at the desk 3294 01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:47,679 and there was just like a line of people 3295 01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:48,639 and he was like hi 3296 01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:50,880 hi everybody he's like the nicest dude 3297 01:53:54,310 --> 01:53:52,400 like goodbye 3298 01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:54,320 sign your book yes thank you very much i 3299 01:53:57,109 --> 01:53:55,920 appreciate it ben do you have your phone 3300 01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:57,119 nearby 3301 01:54:00,870 --> 01:54:00,080 yeah i get over here oh hold on a second 3302 01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:00,880 uh 3303 01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:04,159 yeah so i are you sending me i sent you 3304 01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:04,960 something but 3305 01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:06,800 okay i can't say out loud but i want you 3306 01:54:13,830 --> 01:54:08,719 to know secret 3307 01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,950 that's right 3308 01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:19,510 with all your parties i got it i read it 3309 01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:20,239 i read it 3310 01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:24,560 yes it's true yeah true story wow 3311 01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:27,679 that's awesome dude yeah but yeah so so 3312 01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:28,560 i wanna 3313 01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:31,840 really 3314 01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:33,599 a lot about the secret space program 3315 01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:35,119 until recently 3316 01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:37,280 and that's why like it's such it's such 3317 01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:39,840 a fashion a fascinating topic because 3318 01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:42,800 it can include a lot of different pieces 3319 01:54:45,669 --> 01:54:43,360 yes 3320 01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:45,679 in a lot of the theories right like 3321 01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:47,760 emphasis on the theories because 3322 01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:49,520 let's be honest there's a lot of [\h__\h] 3323 01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:51,920 none of us know what happened 3324 01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:54,080 right and it's a lot it's a lot to 3325 01:54:58,709 --> 01:54:55,360 process like oh 3326 01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:58,719 did that really was it's one of those 3327 01:55:02,550 --> 01:55:00,480 that i like found really hard to swallow 3328 01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,560 which maybe was why i was kind of like 3329 01:55:05,830 --> 01:55:04,400 i really want to like look into this 3330 01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:05,840 yeah yeah it's 3331 01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:08,480 it's it's tough because it it includes 3332 01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:10,320 it includes history 3333 01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,960 yes in a very real way in like a very 3334 01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:14,159 scary way 3335 01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:17,119 right yeah for sure totally totally 3336 01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:18,960 makes sense the nazis man 3337 01:55:24,870 --> 01:55:22,960 like no so okay so i i told you a tidbit 3338 01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:24,880 about this but so like when i finally 3339 01:55:28,229 --> 01:55:26,560 had my regression done i 3340 01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:28,239 i didn't know i i honestly kind of 3341 01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:29,360 thought maybe it would have something to 3342 01:55:32,229 --> 01:55:31,040 do with the manson being that i'd seen 3343 01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:32,239 you know like 3344 01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:34,080 and it was all secret space program 3345 01:55:36,390 --> 01:55:35,760 stuff and i came out of that regression 3346 01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:36,400 like 3347 01:55:42,790 --> 01:55:40,960 to do with 3348 01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:42,800 my entire regression was all secret 3349 01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:44,159 space program and this is before i 3350 01:55:48,070 --> 01:55:46,480 looked into it so i had no idea about 3351 01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:48,080 a lot of it other than that very general 3352 01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:50,239 like it's a it's an advanced program 3353 01:55:52,709 --> 01:55:51,119 that you know 3354 01:55:54,149 --> 01:55:52,719 is developed behind the scenes i didn't 3355 01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:54,159 know anything about the nazi connection 3356 01:55:59,669 --> 01:55:54,960 i didn't know 3357 01:56:02,229 --> 01:55:59,679 i was just kind of 3358 01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:02,239 that's crazy it really was we've heard 3359 01:56:05,030 --> 01:56:03,440 some 3360 01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:05,040 did you did you ever come across this 3361 01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:06,719 claim uh 3362 01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:09,520 while talking to some of these people uh 3363 01:56:12,550 --> 01:56:10,800 we have a friend who 3364 01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,560 who dealt with some of these people 3365 01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:14,400 these super soldier people and 3366 01:56:19,589 --> 01:56:17,599 they had talked about how like 3367 01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:19,599 when they would come back or whenever 3368 01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:21,440 they would be you know like 3369 01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:24,159 at this point in time like at first they 3370 01:56:28,229 --> 01:56:24,639 had 3371 01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:28,239 a craving for raw liver ew yeah there 3372 01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:29,679 was a bunch of them who had a craving 3373 01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:31,119 for raw liver and they were like 3374 01:56:35,109 --> 01:56:32,880 we don't know if it has something to do 3375 01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:35,119 with them like you know 3376 01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:37,280 separating themselves from their bodies 3377 01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:39,520 and and going to this you know 3378 01:56:43,189 --> 01:56:41,280 doing whatever it is that they're doing 3379 01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:43,199 intergalactically or whatever 3380 01:56:46,870 --> 01:56:45,840 and then coming back and like a loss of 3381 01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:46,880 like iron 3382 01:56:49,990 --> 01:56:48,560 is like an iron deficiency in their 3383 01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:50,000 bodies 3384 01:56:53,350 --> 01:56:51,920 so they had this craving for like raw 3385 01:56:55,750 --> 01:56:53,360 liver all the time 3386 01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:55,760 and it would last for a few months and 3387 01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:57,280 then eventually they would they would 3388 01:57:00,310 --> 01:56:58,800 get over it but i don't know 3389 01:57:02,229 --> 01:57:00,320 have you ever heard anything like that 3390 01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:02,239 like i mean i don't i mean i don't 3391 01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:04,080 think so but i mean it certainly makes 3392 01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:05,360 sense i mean the concept behind the 3393 01:57:09,109 --> 01:57:07,040 super soldiers is that they were like 3394 01:57:11,109 --> 01:57:09,119 genetically bioengineered to become 3395 01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:11,119 super soldiers capable of doing things 3396 01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:12,800 so the rest of us can't and so 3397 01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:14,320 if you're messing with someone's body 3398 01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:16,239 and their genetics i would imagine that 3399 01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:17,280 might have some 3400 01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:20,800 weird side effects weird yeah so or like 3401 01:57:23,990 --> 01:57:23,599 possible like if you are a super soldier 3402 01:57:27,109 --> 01:57:24,000 but like 3403 01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:27,119 you 3404 01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:29,599 somehow split and go somewhere else like 3405 01:57:33,990 --> 01:57:31,040 can you imagine like 3406 01:57:35,990 --> 01:57:34,000 if you're if if you know if you have 3407 01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:36,000 massive amount of like blood loss 3408 01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:38,639 like out in this other area or something 3409 01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:40,000 and then you come back to 3410 01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:42,239 like your body would feel like holy [\h__\h] 3411 01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:44,320 like i need some like blood 3412 01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:47,119 like some iron in my body like your soul 3413 01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:48,880 or your spirit or your mind 3414 01:57:52,310 --> 01:57:51,280 like wherever it went you know comes 3415 01:57:55,189 --> 01:57:52,320 back and it still 3416 01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:55,199 holds that feeling that memory of where 3417 01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:56,719 of where you were you know 3418 01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:59,440 the idea that like you have some people 3419 01:58:02,709 --> 01:58:00,320 who are like a 3420 01:58:04,790 --> 01:58:02,719 physical super soldier but there's also 3421 01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:04,800 these mental super soldiers and they're 3422 01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:06,000 like literally going 3423 01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:07,520 somewhere and fighting these 3424 01:58:11,109 --> 01:58:09,520 intergalactic wars 3425 01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:11,119 i haven't heard that one i've talked to 3426 01:58:15,589 --> 01:58:12,880 the physical super soldiers 3427 01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:15,599 yeah yeah that's crazy it makes sense 3428 01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:16,000 though 3429 01:58:19,910 --> 01:58:18,080 you know one of the one of the things 3430 01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:19,920 that intertwines with the super soldier 3431 01:58:24,070 --> 01:58:20,880 story 3432 01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:24,080 and it intertwines in a way that 3433 01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:26,239 it has to do with the technology of med 3434 01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:28,960 beds have you heard of med beds 3435 01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:32,320 okay so i don't know much but what i do 3436 01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:34,000 know is that it 3437 01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:35,520 i don't know the science behind it but 3438 01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:37,920 it can take a slug 3439 01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:41,360 and you gotta plug it in 3440 01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:43,440 there's all kinds of like goo and like 3441 01:58:47,030 --> 01:58:44,960 oohs 3442 01:58:48,870 --> 01:58:47,040 like everybody's having a good time yeah 3443 01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:48,880 but but like the med beds thing 3444 01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:51,920 it uh it coincides with this story right 3445 01:58:55,189 --> 01:58:52,560 like 3446 01:58:56,870 --> 01:58:55,199 again there's so many parts to the su 3447 01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:56,880 the super soldier is just such a 3448 01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:59,440 broad thing but this med bed thing is is 3449 01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:01,199 is particularly interesting because 3450 01:59:05,669 --> 01:59:02,960 there's a there's a company 3451 01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:05,679 uh out of uh oh my gosh i'm gonna ruin 3452 01:59:08,629 --> 01:59:06,320 this but like 3453 01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:08,639 i i don't know where the company's from 3454 01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:09,920 but i saw a commercial 3455 01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:12,400 i will post it to uh our facebook or 3456 01:59:15,669 --> 01:59:12,960 twitter 3457 01:59:16,310 --> 01:59:15,679 dude daddy it's like a different country 3458 01:59:19,270 --> 01:59:16,320 and the guy 3459 01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:19,280 is basically creating a a med bed and 3460 01:59:24,310 --> 01:59:20,400 when a med bed is 3461 01:59:26,390 --> 01:59:24,320 it it basically rejuvenates your cells 3462 01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:26,400 and reverses aging so you could be 3463 01:59:30,070 --> 01:59:28,480 you could walk into this med bed and 3464 01:59:33,189 --> 01:59:30,080 return your cellular 3465 01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:33,199 structure of your body right down to the 3466 01:59:37,910 --> 01:59:34,159 mole on your 3467 01:59:40,709 --> 01:59:37,920 thumb to a certain age i think right now 3468 01:59:41,030 --> 01:59:40,719 what what's in the the the sphere of 3469 01:59:44,229 --> 01:59:41,040 this 3470 01:59:46,870 --> 01:59:44,239 return anybody back to 3471 01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:46,880 around 30 years old interesting that 3472 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:56,790 with christianity 3473 01:59:59,830 --> 01:59:59,030 lynn i have a quick off-topic question 3474 02:00:03,430 --> 01:59:59,840 for you 3475 02:00:06,149 --> 02:00:03,440 um did you untie my shoe with witchcraft 3476 02:00:08,390 --> 02:00:06,159 i did oh did it work perfect beautiful 3477 02:00:10,310 --> 02:00:08,400 totally untied 3478 02:00:11,430 --> 02:00:10,320 i've been here the whole time both my 3479 02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:11,440 shoes were tied 3480 02:00:14,790 --> 02:00:13,280 we talked to a witch and now my shoe's 3481 02:00:15,910 --> 02:00:14,800 untied is this some kind of game you're 3482 02:00:17,430 --> 02:00:15,920 trying to tie them together with your 3483 02:00:19,109 --> 02:00:17,440 witchcraft are you skype 3484 02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:19,119 are you are you skylarking right now are 3485 02:00:23,109 --> 02:00:20,639 you are you i am 3486 02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:23,119 as i'm sitting here i'm just somewhere 3487 02:00:27,109 --> 02:00:24,560 else 3488 02:00:27,620 --> 02:00:27,119 oh my god i'm under the table and tying 3489 02:00:29,750 --> 02:00:27,630 your shoe 3490 02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:29,760 [Laughter] 3491 02:00:32,870 --> 02:00:31,679 so when did this when did this switch 3492 02:00:35,189 --> 02:00:32,880 from like 3493 02:00:35,990 --> 02:00:35,199 well i guess which came first i mean you 3494 02:00:38,629 --> 02:00:36,000 more of a 3495 02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:38,639 a witchy lady and then got into the ufo 3496 02:00:43,109 --> 02:00:39,520 thing 3497 02:00:46,709 --> 02:00:43,119 yeah i got into witchcraft in my 20s um 3498 02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:46,719 so yes i'm in my 40s now 3499 02:00:52,790 --> 02:00:50,080 um so and then i got into yeah 3500 02:00:54,390 --> 02:00:52,800 i am um yes my oldest daughter 3501 02:00:56,310 --> 02:00:54,400 daughter's graduating from high school 3502 02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:56,320 it's crazy 3503 02:00:59,350 --> 02:00:58,560 i know my oldest daughter pooped her 3504 02:01:02,950 --> 02:00:59,360 pants 3505 02:01:07,430 --> 02:01:02,960 like 10 minutes ago she's also 18. yeah 3506 02:01:11,589 --> 02:01:09,669 but then yeah the ufo stuff happened 3507 02:01:12,149 --> 02:01:11,599 like it all started when i had that 3508 02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:12,159 weird 3509 02:01:15,669 --> 02:01:14,560 dream with the mantis being um and that 3510 02:01:20,310 --> 02:01:15,679 was in my 3511 02:01:23,990 --> 02:01:20,320 been involved with witchcraft stuff for 3512 02:01:25,990 --> 02:01:24,000 like 15 years before that so so being 3513 02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:26,000 having uh experiences with this mantis 3514 02:01:28,790 --> 02:01:27,280 because i i would love for you to 3515 02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:28,800 describe the mantis but 3516 02:01:32,709 --> 02:01:32,000 i mean it's just i don't know but has it 3517 02:01:35,589 --> 02:01:32,719 opened your 3518 02:01:37,109 --> 02:01:35,599 broad and your your understanding of i 3519 02:01:38,550 --> 02:01:37,119 mean the best word for it right now is 3520 02:01:40,950 --> 02:01:38,560 like the phenomenon right like 3521 02:01:42,229 --> 02:01:40,960 right yeah it's it's just an easy word 3522 02:01:43,750 --> 02:01:42,239 we can all we know what we're talking 3523 02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:43,760 about when we say phenomena so 3524 02:01:48,149 --> 02:01:46,000 yeah like in what ways did it open up 3525 02:01:49,830 --> 02:01:48,159 your your spectrum 3526 02:01:51,830 --> 02:01:49,840 i wasn't involved with any of it at all 3527 02:01:54,390 --> 02:01:51,840 before that you know and so 3528 02:01:55,589 --> 02:01:54,400 um what was really weird what like real 3529 02:01:57,990 --> 02:01:55,599 the thing that really 3530 02:01:59,830 --> 02:01:58,000 got me to think like maybe this wasn't 3531 02:02:02,709 --> 02:01:59,840 just a weird dream 3532 02:02:04,390 --> 02:02:02,719 was so i had this this picture of like i 3533 02:02:05,350 --> 02:02:04,400 said it was like this mantis being and 3534 02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:05,360 it was like i was 3535 02:02:08,790 --> 02:02:06,880 it was from the perspective of me kind 3536 02:02:09,589 --> 02:02:08,800 of laying on you know like one of those 3537 02:02:11,830 --> 02:02:09,599 like very simple 3538 02:02:13,270 --> 02:02:11,840 stereotypical like examination tables 3539 02:02:16,070 --> 02:02:13,280 you know in a ufo 3540 02:02:17,830 --> 02:02:16,080 so i was laying down and i saw these two 3541 02:02:19,270 --> 02:02:17,840 little grays peeking up over the table 3542 02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:19,280 so they were kind of like this looking 3543 02:02:21,350 --> 02:02:19,840 at me 3544 02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:21,360 and then the mantis being was behind 3545 02:02:24,550 --> 02:02:23,760 them but it was wearing he was wearing 3546 02:02:27,430 --> 02:02:24,560 this long 3547 02:02:28,790 --> 02:02:27,440 kind of like burgundy robe type thing 3548 02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:28,800 and it had this like 3549 02:02:34,709 --> 02:02:32,400 gold v kind of at the top like 3550 02:02:36,390 --> 02:02:34,719 and i had this image in my mind for like 3551 02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:36,400 days and i couldn't get out of my head 3552 02:02:39,589 --> 02:02:38,000 and so i was just playing like okay i 3553 02:02:41,109 --> 02:02:39,599 need to draw this which i'm not an 3554 02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:41,119 artist so i don't know why i felt the 3555 02:02:44,229 --> 02:02:41,920 need to like 3556 02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:44,239 i'm gonna draw this but it was just like 3557 02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:46,000 i felt compelled to do it like i had to 3558 02:02:47,990 --> 02:02:46,400 keep 3559 02:02:49,510 --> 02:02:48,000 record of what it was that i saw for 3560 02:02:50,950 --> 02:02:49,520 some reason so i was like okay fine 3561 02:02:52,790 --> 02:02:50,960 maybe if i just draw this it'll 3562 02:02:54,070 --> 02:02:52,800 get out of my head you know and i was 3563 02:02:55,990 --> 02:02:54,080 drawing it and 3564 02:02:57,589 --> 02:02:56,000 like here like in my voice like no 3565 02:02:58,390 --> 02:02:57,599 that's not right when i was drawing the 3566 02:02:59,750 --> 02:02:58,400 robe 3567 02:03:01,830 --> 02:02:59,760 and like there because there were 3568 02:03:03,109 --> 02:03:01,840 several lines and i didn't have it quite 3569 02:03:03,990 --> 02:03:03,119 right and so i was just kind of like 3570 02:03:05,910 --> 02:03:04,000 okay 3571 02:03:07,830 --> 02:03:05,920 and i remembered again oh that's what it 3572 02:03:10,950 --> 02:03:07,840 looked like and so i redrew it 3573 02:03:12,550 --> 02:03:10,960 and then probably months later after i 3574 02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:12,560 had already started working with free i 3575 02:03:17,430 --> 02:03:14,000 was talking to this one woman 3576 02:03:19,910 --> 02:03:17,440 and i was telling her about this this 3577 02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:19,920 dream that i had and we were chatting 3578 02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,880 and she was like 3579 02:03:23,430 --> 02:03:22,080 kind of helping me out she worked for 3580 02:03:25,189 --> 02:03:23,440 mufon but she was also like sort of 3581 02:03:27,910 --> 02:03:25,199 helping me out with some of the like 3582 02:03:28,870 --> 02:03:27,920 experiencers and she knew someone that 3583 02:03:30,629 --> 02:03:28,880 also had 3584 02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:30,639 an encounter with a mantis being and so 3585 02:03:34,550 --> 02:03:32,400 i was just like yeah it was so strange 3586 02:03:36,229 --> 02:03:34,560 it was wearing this like 3587 02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:36,239 this outfit and she was like was it a 3588 02:03:38,470 --> 02:03:38,080 burgundy robe and i was like get out of 3589 02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:38,480 town 3590 02:03:41,990 --> 02:03:41,040 like stop seriously yeah so it was just 3591 02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:42,000 kind of like that was the 3592 02:03:45,990 --> 02:03:43,679 thing that connected it and i was like 3593 02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:46,000 oh maybe that's why i had to get it just 3594 02:03:48,790 --> 02:03:47,280 right because i was describing it she 3595 02:03:49,910 --> 02:03:48,800 was like yes that's exactly what he said 3596 02:03:53,669 --> 02:03:49,920 he saw too 3597 02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:53,679 so i was like that's crazy crazy talk 3598 02:03:56,709 --> 02:03:55,360 i have a question so i mean that's so 3599 02:04:00,310 --> 02:03:56,719 specific and i love that 3600 02:04:02,629 --> 02:04:00,320 i love asking like like details because 3601 02:04:04,790 --> 02:04:02,639 the fact that you had a uh like the 3602 02:04:07,109 --> 02:04:04,800 compelling 3603 02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:07,119 moment to draw it is huge because you 3604 02:04:10,149 --> 02:04:08,320 you said yourself you're 3605 02:04:12,229 --> 02:04:10,159 you don't normally draw so the fact that 3606 02:04:13,830 --> 02:04:12,239 you even had the confidence to even try 3607 02:04:16,229 --> 02:04:13,840 to do that says something 3608 02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:16,239 but also you said that maybe you had 3609 02:04:18,790 --> 02:04:17,119 maybe 3610 02:04:20,470 --> 02:04:18,800 heard something in your head or had an 3611 02:04:23,030 --> 02:04:20,480 idea maybe maybe not a 3612 02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:23,040 w was it was an auditory thing or was it 3613 02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:24,480 just like it was kind of like 3614 02:04:27,430 --> 02:04:25,920 it was in my head but i knew that it 3615 02:04:28,550 --> 02:04:27,440 wasn't my voice it was similar to like 3616 02:04:31,430 --> 02:04:28,560 when i hear a ghost 3617 02:04:31,750 --> 02:04:31,440 talk in my head it's like i it it's it's 3618 02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:31,760 just 3619 02:04:35,350 --> 02:04:33,520 in my head but i know it's not me saying 3620 02:04:36,550 --> 02:04:35,360 it because it's just like a weird piece 3621 02:04:37,750 --> 02:04:36,560 of information that i wouldn't have 3622 02:04:39,109 --> 02:04:37,760 known you know and so like when i was 3623 02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:39,119 drawing and i'm like just trying it out 3624 02:04:41,430 --> 02:04:40,320 thinking like okay this is 3625 02:04:43,589 --> 02:04:41,440 and it was just kind of like no that's 3626 02:04:43,910 --> 02:04:43,599 not right do it again and i was kind of 3627 02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:43,920 like 3628 02:04:47,669 --> 02:04:45,440 okay well i'm getting very bossy with 3629 02:04:51,669 --> 02:04:47,679 myself 3630 02:04:58,550 --> 02:04:54,870 i dude i'm bob ross yeah right exactly 3631 02:05:00,709 --> 02:04:58,560 happy little robe um so yeah so i just 3632 02:05:01,350 --> 02:05:00,719 like i knew i had to get the robe just 3633 02:05:03,189 --> 02:05:01,360 right and 3634 02:05:05,430 --> 02:05:03,199 and then of course that came into play 3635 02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:05,440 later on when i was describing this row 3636 02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:06,880 she was like oh yeah that's exactly what 3637 02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:07,679 he described 3638 02:05:12,229 --> 02:05:10,719 too so did it did it have did it have 3639 02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:12,239 some sort of lapel 3640 02:05:16,310 --> 02:05:13,920 at all it did not it was like it was 3641 02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:16,320 kind of like it came to a v but it was 3642 02:05:18,629 --> 02:05:17,920 like a very high kind of v but then it 3643 02:05:22,069 --> 02:05:18,639 had like a 3644 02:05:23,430 --> 02:05:22,079 thick gold v and then it had like 3645 02:05:24,790 --> 02:05:23,440 you know that went like around the 3646 02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:24,800 neckline i guess you could call it and 3647 02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:26,159 then it had like a thinner one 3648 02:05:29,750 --> 02:05:28,320 a thinner gold line on top of that beat 3649 02:05:31,669 --> 02:05:29,760 and then like another thinner line 3650 02:05:34,629 --> 02:05:31,679 underneath the thick band 3651 02:05:36,229 --> 02:05:34,639 so it was like three gold kind of v's 3652 02:05:38,390 --> 02:05:36,239 but the middle one was thick 3653 02:05:39,430 --> 02:05:38,400 so it maybe could it be i don't know i'm 3654 02:05:42,229 --> 02:05:39,440 just like getting 3655 02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:42,239 i'm just like visualizing it like yeah 3656 02:05:45,910 --> 02:05:43,280 uh you see like 3657 02:05:46,629 --> 02:05:45,920 sashes i'm sorry if i'm like prying too 3658 02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:46,639 hard but what 3659 02:05:57,910 --> 02:05:55,750 [Laughter] 3660 02:05:59,589 --> 02:05:57,920 was it like obviously too small but he 3661 02:06:01,990 --> 02:05:59,599 was still trying to rock it there's a 3662 02:06:03,910 --> 02:06:02,000 reason why i'm asking this v-neck was a 3663 02:06:07,350 --> 02:06:03,920 dv 3664 02:06:08,470 --> 02:06:07,360 it was an american apparel uh cotton tri 3665 02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:08,480 blend 3666 02:06:12,149 --> 02:06:10,800 very expensive but worth it because we 3667 02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:12,159 want our customers to feel good that's 3668 02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:13,199 where we got it 3669 02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:20,550 by the way you can go to ufo garage 3670 02:06:25,910 --> 02:06:22,800 podcast and pay 40 dollars for a shirt 3671 02:06:27,189 --> 02:06:25,920 right there or come on the show and get 3672 02:06:31,589 --> 02:06:27,199 one for free 3673 02:06:33,589 --> 02:06:31,599 yeah made of an an alien made silk 3674 02:06:34,950 --> 02:06:33,599 but so there's a reason why i'm asking 3675 02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:34,960 but i feel like i 3676 02:06:38,629 --> 02:06:37,599 the the the sashes that you see often in 3677 02:06:41,350 --> 02:06:38,639 like religions 3678 02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:41,360 right like with the catholic tradition 3679 02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:41,840 and then 3680 02:06:47,030 --> 02:06:44,880 again i mean i'm just like fresh off of 3681 02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:47,040 learning a little bit more about like 3682 02:06:51,430 --> 02:06:48,239 the heavens gate 3683 02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:51,440 and the way that they utilize sashes 3684 02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:53,440 it just seems to be a motif that's 3685 02:07:00,149 --> 02:06:56,079 repetitive so i'm wondering if like 3686 02:07:03,430 --> 02:07:00,159 this has this was a an idea that someone 3687 02:07:04,629 --> 02:07:03,440 got through an experience or is this 3688 02:07:05,510 --> 02:07:04,639 just something that humans made up 3689 02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:05,520 because like 3690 02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:07,520 everybody likes a little bit of soft 3691 02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:09,040 cloth around their 3692 02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:12,000 neck i don't know i mean it wasn't a 3693 02:07:16,870 --> 02:07:13,840 sash so much per se it was 3694 02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:16,880 it was more like star trek looking than 3695 02:07:21,189 --> 02:07:18,719 it would be religious looking 3696 02:07:22,709 --> 02:07:21,199 um but i mean you know like something 3697 02:07:23,350 --> 02:07:22,719 one of the aliens on star trek would 3698 02:07:24,950 --> 02:07:23,360 have worn 3699 02:07:26,950 --> 02:07:24,960 like that's kind of what it reminded me 3700 02:07:29,589 --> 02:07:26,960 of like mork from working mindy 3701 02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:29,599 yeah yeah yes exactly the yeah the 3702 02:07:33,910 --> 02:07:30,400 rainbow 3703 02:07:45,750 --> 02:07:33,920 suspenders he had those on under there 3704 02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:47,420 disproportionate okay 3705 02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:51,199 [Laughter] 3706 02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:54,880 oh my gosh what color was the mantid 3707 02:07:58,229 --> 02:07:57,760 he was uh he was like a light like green 3708 02:08:01,030 --> 02:07:58,239 color 3709 02:08:04,470 --> 02:08:01,040 but his eyes were like uh kind of like a 3710 02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:06,310 we had somebody who had said that they 3711 02:08:10,390 --> 02:08:08,000 had seen a a 3712 02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:10,400 being in the eyes like the description 3713 02:08:14,310 --> 02:08:11,760 of the eyes were like 3714 02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:14,320 really cool like it was you know he was 3715 02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:16,159 like they were kind of reflective 3716 02:08:19,669 --> 02:08:17,920 like yeah like like you're charismatic 3717 02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:19,679 almost yeah like yeah 3718 02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:20,960 it was almost like you know like the 3719 02:08:24,550 --> 02:08:22,800 chameleon paint like on a car or 3720 02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:24,560 something where like when it dries by it 3721 02:08:28,709 --> 02:08:26,320 changes like gold purple 3722 02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:28,719 blue yeah yeah it was like that and just 3723 02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:30,400 depending on how it would move it would 3724 02:08:34,629 --> 02:08:31,360 have like this 3725 02:08:36,709 --> 02:08:34,639 reflective property to it like the eyes 3726 02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:36,719 are always an interesting aspect to all 3727 02:08:41,589 --> 02:08:37,840 of these things like 3728 02:08:44,629 --> 02:08:41,599 yeah very interesting very interesting 3729 02:08:48,069 --> 02:08:44,639 oh man so is is that 3730 02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:48,079 like is there like 3731 02:08:52,069 --> 02:08:49,679 you you said something earlier about 3732 02:08:54,790 --> 02:08:52,079 there being two gray beings 3733 02:08:56,629 --> 02:08:54,800 uh was that the same encounter or was 3734 02:08:58,790 --> 02:08:56,639 that like a dream that you had 3735 02:09:01,030 --> 02:08:58,800 because that was the same and it was i 3736 02:09:02,550 --> 02:09:01,040 remember it as a dream i don't know 3737 02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:02,560 like i said when i did my regression i 3738 02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:04,000 figured this would come up and it didn't 3739 02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:05,360 come up at all so 3740 02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:07,199 i still like remember it as a dream but 3741 02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:09,520 it was very very vivid like that was the 3742 02:09:12,149 --> 02:09:11,440 one that i woke up expecting them to be 3743 02:09:14,149 --> 02:09:12,159 there 3744 02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:14,159 but my experience with the grace is 3745 02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:15,840 different i have talked to a couple of 3746 02:09:18,390 --> 02:09:17,360 people who have had a similar experience 3747 02:09:19,990 --> 02:09:18,400 and i know that there are different 3748 02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:20,000 types of grades you know 3749 02:09:22,870 --> 02:09:21,280 different people have encounters with 3750 02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:22,880 different grades but the two little 3751 02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:24,320 grays that i saw were actually like 3752 02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:24,800 almost 3753 02:09:28,550 --> 02:09:27,119 childlike in their behavior like they 3754 02:09:29,990 --> 02:09:28,560 were just very curious they weren't 3755 02:09:31,510 --> 02:09:30,000 scary at all it was almost like two 3756 02:09:31,990 --> 02:09:31,520 little kids picking up on the table like 3757 02:09:33,830 --> 02:09:32,000 what's going 3758 02:09:35,669 --> 02:09:33,840 on like that was kind of the feeling 3759 02:09:37,750 --> 02:09:35,679 that i got from them so they weren't 3760 02:09:40,229 --> 02:09:37,760 none of it was frightening it was just 3761 02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:40,239 unnerving waking up like 3762 02:09:43,830 --> 02:09:42,000 what did i just see because i never had 3763 02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:43,840 any experience before so it was just 3764 02:09:47,669 --> 02:09:44,639 kind of wow 3765 02:09:48,229 --> 02:09:47,679 well that's different yeah yeah it's not 3766 02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:48,239 a ghost 3767 02:09:51,430 --> 02:09:50,239 that's different wow and the fact that 3768 02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:51,440 you vividly 3769 02:09:54,709 --> 02:09:54,159 only remember it once is is interesting 3770 02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:54,719 because 3771 02:09:58,229 --> 02:09:57,040 i mean i'm just being selfish here but 3772 02:10:00,629 --> 02:09:58,239 like i've i've had also 3773 02:10:02,550 --> 02:10:00,639 we were talking about the the uh sleep 3774 02:10:05,750 --> 02:10:02,560 paralysis like that really only happened 3775 02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:05,760 once so i kind of rule it out as like 3776 02:10:10,149 --> 02:10:08,560 i'm fine yeah i'm good i just it just 3777 02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:10,159 happened the one time 3778 02:10:13,430 --> 02:10:12,880 but [\h__\h] i've never been regressed so 3779 02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:13,440 yeah 3780 02:10:18,709 --> 02:10:16,880 and i'm scared too oh it's okay if we do 3781 02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:18,719 we'll probably do it live on the podcast 3782 02:10:23,270 --> 02:10:19,920 okay i'll do it 3783 02:10:24,470 --> 02:10:23,280 we'll i'll be gentle that would be okay 3784 02:10:26,470 --> 02:10:24,480 so i didn't know that you did 3785 02:10:26,870 --> 02:10:26,480 regressions okay i do i don't i don't 3786 02:10:28,709 --> 02:10:26,880 usually 3787 02:10:30,310 --> 02:10:28,719 i don't do them anymore i used to do 3788 02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:30,320 them um but yeah 3789 02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:31,840 yeah i can i mean i could certainly 3790 02:10:35,109 --> 02:10:33,440 still do one 3791 02:10:37,270 --> 02:10:35,119 i've always had this thought right 3792 02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:37,280 because uh regression 3793 02:10:41,669 --> 02:10:39,840 uh you know i've seen like videos and 3794 02:10:43,750 --> 02:10:41,679 documentaries and stuff like that 3795 02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:43,760 and i'll i always get a little worried 3796 02:10:46,629 --> 02:10:44,800 because 3797 02:10:48,229 --> 02:10:46,639 when i was in high school we had this 3798 02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:48,239 hypnotist come 3799 02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:50,960 and he brought like five people on the 3800 02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:52,079 stage 3801 02:10:59,189 --> 02:10:55,199 and i felt like a total idiot 3802 02:11:01,270 --> 02:10:59,199 because i sat up there and like 3803 02:11:02,470 --> 02:11:01,280 dude he had people clucking like 3804 02:11:04,390 --> 02:11:02,480 chickens and doing 3805 02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:04,400 wild stuff and like he was like all 3806 02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:07,280 right if you're in the trance 3807 02:11:11,990 --> 02:11:10,560 you know you will sleep and like snaps 3808 02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:12,000 his fingers and like people were just 3809 02:11:22,550 --> 02:11:12,400 like 3810 02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:22,560 of the corner of my eye 3811 02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:24,560 you it you're like oh yeah i kind of 3812 02:11:27,350 --> 02:11:25,760 like put my head down 3813 02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:27,360 and then finally like we got like 3814 02:11:30,629 --> 02:11:28,639 halfway through it and he was like if 3815 02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:30,639 anybody's still awake raise your hand 3816 02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:33,040 and i was like god damn it i just 3817 02:11:36,830 --> 02:11:35,440 raised my hand because i was like i was 3818 02:11:39,510 --> 02:11:36,840 so bummed 3819 02:11:40,069 --> 02:11:39,520 i wanted i wanted to clock like a 3820 02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:40,079 chicken 3821 02:11:43,750 --> 02:11:43,280 like whatever that's worth right but 3822 02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:43,760 like 3823 02:11:47,270 --> 02:11:45,679 i was so bummed that i was the only 3824 02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:47,280 person that didn't work on 3825 02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:49,360 oh that's interesting and it's weird 3826 02:11:54,310 --> 02:11:52,239 because like even like 3827 02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:54,320 dabbled in some stuff right you know 3828 02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:55,840 what i'm saying like somebody takes a 3829 02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:58,880 hit of like show parties like 3830 02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:01,119 in my younger years right right you know 3831 02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:03,040 like even some people are so sensitive 3832 02:12:06,709 --> 02:12:04,960 they're like oh i smoked some weed and i 3833 02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:06,719 saw god and it's like 3834 02:12:10,069 --> 02:12:09,360 i don't know dude like you know but like 3835 02:12:12,390 --> 02:12:10,079 who am i 3836 02:12:14,069 --> 02:12:12,400 to judge your personal experience you 3837 02:12:15,510 --> 02:12:14,079 know like even these people like took 3838 02:12:17,750 --> 02:12:15,520 like one hit acid and they were just 3839 02:12:18,790 --> 02:12:17,760 like oh i went to this other place and 3840 02:12:20,390 --> 02:12:18,800 it's like 3841 02:12:22,390 --> 02:12:20,400 dude all we did was listen to the 3842 02:12:24,709 --> 02:12:22,400 grateful dead for seven hours 3843 02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:24,719 and like that's all we did and like i 3844 02:12:27,030 --> 02:12:26,560 just feel like like the the placebo 3845 02:12:30,149 --> 02:12:27,040 effect 3846 02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:30,159 never like really worked on me that much 3847 02:12:34,470 --> 02:12:32,880 um and and you know i don't know like 3848 02:12:35,189 --> 02:12:34,480 i've always been worried about like 3849 02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:35,199 because i 3850 02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:37,840 want to i want to have a regression like 3851 02:12:42,550 --> 02:12:39,840 i want to do that like 3852 02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:42,560 i don't know like what like is it just 3853 02:12:51,910 --> 02:12:42,960 me 3854 02:12:53,350 --> 02:12:51,920 but you know i think we could get you to 3855 02:12:55,109 --> 02:12:53,360 that point where so it's a very 3856 02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:55,119 different type of hypnotic state it's 3857 02:12:59,430 --> 02:12:56,800 actually just a light trance 3858 02:13:00,870 --> 02:12:59,440 so you're very aware the whole time 3859 02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:00,880 right but it just puts you in 3860 02:13:04,310 --> 02:13:02,480 think of it as in like a deeper state of 3861 02:13:05,430 --> 02:13:04,320 relaxation where your mind is kind of 3862 02:13:07,270 --> 02:13:05,440 more open 3863 02:13:08,709 --> 02:13:07,280 and you just kind of go with the flu but 3864 02:13:10,310 --> 02:13:08,719 your flow but you're always very 3865 02:13:12,229 --> 02:13:10,320 conscious that's one thing that a lot of 3866 02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:12,239 people are very surprised by when they 3867 02:13:15,510 --> 02:13:14,400 get regressed is how conscious they are 3868 02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:15,520 of the whole thing 3869 02:13:19,830 --> 02:13:18,159 and they kind of are like am i like is 3870 02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:19,840 this working you know and 3871 02:13:23,350 --> 02:13:22,079 you can tell like i can tell like by 3872 02:13:23,990 --> 02:13:23,360 looking at them their body you know 3873 02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:24,000 they're like 3874 02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:26,159 like this but they're still mentally 3875 02:13:30,870 --> 02:13:28,719 like very conscious of what's going on 3876 02:13:33,270 --> 02:13:30,880 um so it's not the same as kind of like 3877 02:13:34,629 --> 02:13:33,280 yeah that like stage hypnosis so i think 3878 02:13:36,229 --> 02:13:34,639 i think you'd be fine especially if you 3879 02:13:37,270 --> 02:13:36,239 want to it's usually the people that are 3880 02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:37,280 scared of it 3881 02:13:40,149 --> 02:13:38,880 that i have a harder time being 3882 02:13:41,750 --> 02:13:40,159 regressed because they're just like 3883 02:13:43,109 --> 02:13:41,760 consciously fighting it in their head 3884 02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:43,119 you know because they're like 3885 02:13:46,310 --> 02:13:45,119 worried about it but like this isn't 3886 02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:46,320 gonna work on me 3887 02:13:49,669 --> 02:13:48,000 or yeah yeah some people are just like 3888 02:13:51,750 --> 02:13:49,679 but actually those people sometimes 3889 02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:51,760 it they're the easiest to regress it 3890 02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:53,119 just depends but 3891 02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:54,880 the people that are scared have a harder 3892 02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:56,560 time because that you have to relax 3893 02:14:00,149 --> 02:13:58,239 it's all about just being able to relax 3894 02:14:02,709 --> 02:14:00,159 and kind of letting yourself 3895 02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:02,719 let go of your kind of like rational 3896 02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:04,079 judgments you know that's the hardest 3897 02:14:07,270 --> 02:14:05,520 thing people have is they like 3898 02:14:08,709 --> 02:14:07,280 they see something or something comes to 3899 02:14:09,669 --> 02:14:08,719 their mind and they're like wait that 3900 02:14:11,030 --> 02:14:09,679 doesn't i'm like just 3901 02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:11,040 just tell me what you're seeing or 3902 02:14:13,669 --> 02:14:13,040 feeling you know like don't judge it in 3903 02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:13,679 the moment 3904 02:14:16,629 --> 02:14:14,960 you know we can always look back at it 3905 02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:16,639 later but just tell me what's what's 3906 02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:17,760 coming through to you 3907 02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:20,239 right yeah yeah i see that being a 3908 02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:20,880 problem because 3909 02:14:25,270 --> 02:14:22,800 every time i try to answer a question i 3910 02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:25,280 come up with 10 different questions and 3911 02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:26,079 i try to answer 3912 02:14:29,589 --> 02:14:28,159 all those and then like circle back to 3913 02:14:31,030 --> 02:14:29,599 the initial question 3914 02:14:33,669 --> 02:14:31,040 oh so but you're in too much of a 3915 02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:33,679 relaxed state to get to that point 3916 02:14:37,910 --> 02:14:36,000 yeah you're kind of like it's it's like 3917 02:14:39,669 --> 02:14:37,920 imagine like smoking really good weed 3918 02:14:41,830 --> 02:14:39,679 like you're very aware of what's going 3919 02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:41,840 on but you're just like super relaxed 3920 02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:44,239 that's what it's like relaxing is one of 3921 02:14:47,669 --> 02:14:46,000 my favorite things to do 3922 02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:47,679 you'd be great and we could easily do a 3923 02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:49,840 regression on you that yeah yeah but 3924 02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:52,719 man i just i remember that man senior 3925 02:14:56,950 --> 02:14:54,000 year just graduated 3926 02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:56,960 they had a hit a hypnotist come and and 3927 02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:58,480 god damn it dude 3928 02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:59,840 you didn't all you wanted to do was 3929 02:15:02,310 --> 02:15:01,520 cluck like a chicken and that's all i 3930 02:15:04,229 --> 02:15:02,320 wanted to do 3931 02:15:06,550 --> 02:15:04,239 you could do that yeah cluck like a 3932 02:15:09,109 --> 02:15:06,560 chicken man buddy 3933 02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:09,119 you could do it you know come on live 3934 02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:11,520 your best life joe let's hear it 3935 02:15:14,950 --> 02:15:13,360 i'm not i'm not good at doing things 3936 02:15:16,550 --> 02:15:14,960 that people tell me to do 3937 02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:16,560 you know like i feel like that was an 3938 02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:18,320 issue it's like there you go 3939 02:15:21,589 --> 02:15:20,000 he's like you're gonna be very relaxed 3940 02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:21,599 i'm like don't tell me what to do god 3941 02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:23,199 damn it 3942 02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:26,320 i will not i will not relax like 3943 02:15:29,589 --> 02:15:27,840 you look like you're just a rebellious 3944 02:15:32,229 --> 02:15:29,599 teenager at that point i guess so 3945 02:15:33,910 --> 02:15:32,239 i guess i'm the same way now though like 3946 02:15:36,470 --> 02:15:33,920 i don't know but it's gonna ask me why 3947 02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:36,480 like i said like weird stuff comes up 3948 02:15:39,910 --> 02:15:37,840 and sometimes it's 3949 02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:39,920 not at all like for me like that was not 3950 02:15:44,390 --> 02:15:41,040 at all what i expected 3951 02:15:46,149 --> 02:15:44,400 to see and it was very vivid and it's 3952 02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:46,159 i like i still have a hard time 3953 02:15:50,229 --> 02:15:47,679 processing it because 3954 02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:50,239 i'm kind of like that's very out there 3955 02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:50,800 but it 3956 02:15:55,350 --> 02:15:53,440 feels very much like memories to me you 3957 02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:55,360 know at this point like having like 3958 02:15:59,589 --> 02:15:57,280 done the regression it's but it's 3959 02:16:02,709 --> 02:15:59,599 nothing that i even knew about 3960 02:16:04,310 --> 02:16:02,719 so and and the person the psychologist 3961 02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:04,320 who did the regression on me he was very 3962 02:16:07,990 --> 02:16:05,840 good he was not suggestive 3963 02:16:09,750 --> 02:16:08,000 like he you know because i went back and 3964 02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:09,760 like listened to it and he did it he did 3965 02:16:23,270 --> 02:16:10,000 a 3966 02:16:24,550 --> 02:16:23,280 sometimes like i'm kind of like 3967 02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:24,560 i just even like talked to my boyfriend 3968 02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:25,920 about it i was like the other day and i 3969 02:16:28,790 --> 02:16:27,119 was just kind of like telling him 3970 02:16:31,189 --> 02:16:28,800 everything that i saw and 3971 02:16:33,589 --> 02:16:31,199 it's a lot of detail you know and and i 3972 02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:33,599 was like it's so weird but i remember 3973 02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:34,080 like 3974 02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:35,840 seeing the moon right outside of the 3975 02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:37,760 window like right there 3976 02:16:41,030 --> 02:16:39,200 you know and i was just kind of like 3977 02:16:43,830 --> 02:16:41,040 it's so bizarre 3978 02:16:44,389 --> 02:16:43,840 and after like i had that regression for 3979 02:16:47,669 --> 02:16:44,399 i'd say 3980 02:16:49,910 --> 02:16:47,679 like a good year or two i had this like 3981 02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:49,920 homesickness feeling of being out in 3982 02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:51,599 space like wanting to be out in space 3983 02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:52,880 like this was not 3984 02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:54,639 it was very strange like this is why i 3985 02:16:59,110 --> 02:16:56,800 had like a hard time 3986 02:17:00,549 --> 02:16:59,120 coming to terms with it like i still do 3987 02:17:02,870 --> 02:17:00,559 it's so strange 3988 02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:02,880 wow yeah it's really weird so like i 3989 02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:04,240 imagine this must be a 3990 02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:05,920 very strange feeling for you like 3991 02:17:11,509 --> 02:17:08,240 because you're you're longing for 3992 02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:11,519 a a safe environment i guess in a way 3993 02:17:17,990 --> 02:17:15,280 that you physically can't remember 3994 02:17:18,549 --> 02:17:18,000 experiencing so it's like yeah oh man 3995 02:17:21,190 --> 02:17:18,559 it's like this 3996 02:17:22,389 --> 02:17:21,200 this this i yeah that's super 3997 02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:22,399 interesting 3998 02:17:26,150 --> 02:17:24,719 well who's to say you haven't at some 3999 02:17:27,190 --> 02:17:26,160 point or another well that's the thing 4000 02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:27,200 it's just like you 4001 02:17:31,349 --> 02:17:29,840 i can't for you know i can't 100 i'm 4002 02:17:33,110 --> 02:17:31,359 always that person that's kind of like 4003 02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:33,120 well i can't say that that didn't happen 4004 02:17:35,509 --> 02:17:35,040 to me or to you or to whoever you know 4005 02:17:37,429 --> 02:17:35,519 like because 4006 02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:37,439 how do i know for sure whether or not it 4007 02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:39,920 happened and so i have that same 4008 02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:42,479 response to myself which is like i can't 4009 02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:43,519 say 100 4010 02:17:48,230 --> 02:17:45,920 that it didn't happen and i certainly 4011 02:17:50,629 --> 02:17:48,240 like some of the things that i said 4012 02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:50,639 i then saw later on in other people 4013 02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:52,719 talking about the secret space program 4014 02:17:56,309 --> 02:17:54,960 and like specific words that i use like 4015 02:17:58,870 --> 02:17:56,319 i talked about being 4016 02:18:00,389 --> 02:17:58,880 um able to interface with the aliens 4017 02:18:02,150 --> 02:18:00,399 that was part of my role 4018 02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:02,160 which was basically kind of like that 4019 02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:03,840 telepathic communication 4020 02:18:07,190 --> 02:18:05,359 but i specifically said the word 4021 02:18:08,549 --> 02:18:07,200 interface and i told 4022 02:18:09,589 --> 02:18:08,559 the the doctor that was doing it i was 4023 02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:09,599 like that's what we called it 4024 02:18:11,750 --> 02:18:10,479 interfacing 4025 02:18:13,349 --> 02:18:11,760 but all it is is telepathic 4026 02:18:14,389 --> 02:18:13,359 communication and then i saw someone 4027 02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:14,399 else saying 4028 02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:16,479 they were used like part of their role 4029 02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:17,679 was to interface with the 4030 02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:20,240 the other beings and i was kind of like 4031 02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:20,719 wait 4032 02:18:24,709 --> 02:18:22,800 that's weird you know and it's like 4033 02:18:27,030 --> 02:18:24,719 those little moments that i kind of like 4034 02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:27,040 what and then i saw this like shuttle 4035 02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:27,840 craft 4036 02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:30,240 and after i came out of the regression i 4037 02:18:33,509 --> 02:18:31,359 wrote a lot of notes 4038 02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:33,519 and i and i drew like pictures and so i 4039 02:18:36,629 --> 02:18:35,200 drew this specific shuttle craft that i 4040 02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:36,639 remember seeing 4041 02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:39,040 that took me up from earth to the ship 4042 02:18:41,990 --> 02:18:40,000 and 4043 02:18:44,150 --> 02:18:42,000 it was on have you ever watched um 4044 02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:44,160 what's it called cosmic disclosure 4045 02:18:47,750 --> 02:18:46,160 it's like corey good you know and he 4046 02:18:49,030 --> 02:18:47,760 talked about this one like shuttlecraft 4047 02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:49,040 and it was like a black kind of 4048 02:18:52,549 --> 02:18:50,719 triangular craft 4049 02:18:53,990 --> 02:18:52,559 and it had like it was first like maybe 4050 02:18:55,349 --> 02:18:54,000 four to six people and that's exactly 4051 02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:55,359 what i said too like 4052 02:18:59,270 --> 02:18:58,000 it looked exactly like the illustration 4053 02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:59,280 that they had created because you know 4054 02:19:01,910 --> 02:19:00,319 how they do like the graphic 4055 02:19:02,309 --> 02:19:01,920 illustrations to show what he's talking 4056 02:19:04,870 --> 02:19:02,319 about 4057 02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:04,880 it looked exactly like it and i was just 4058 02:19:09,910 --> 02:19:06,719 kind of like oh 4059 02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:09,920 what is going on it's crazy it's crazy 4060 02:19:15,589 --> 02:19:13,920 yeah see that's that's so con uh well 4061 02:19:17,030 --> 02:19:15,599 it gets even weirder if you want to hear 4062 02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:17,040 more absolutely 4063 02:19:20,309 --> 02:19:18,240 i do want to figure out what this 4064 02:19:22,870 --> 02:19:20,319 beeping is in the background i i 4065 02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:22,880 in my no i i was thinking it was yours 4066 02:19:25,750 --> 02:19:24,080 but it's mine let me go 4067 02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:25,760 dude i got it are you not hearing that 4068 02:19:29,429 --> 02:19:27,439 the beeping it's like anything 4069 02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:29,439 all right my witchcraft again i'm 4070 02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:30,800 messing with your shoes i'm messing with 4071 02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:31,519 his head 4072 02:19:35,030 --> 02:19:34,000 seriously who's got ears like a [\h__\h] 4073 02:19:36,870 --> 02:19:35,040 deer he hears 4074 02:19:38,870 --> 02:19:36,880 everything and i don't know it's weird 4075 02:19:40,309 --> 02:19:38,880 because like i'll have my headphones on 4076 02:19:44,309 --> 02:19:40,319 he'll talk to me from the other side of 4077 02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:45,910 i was the only one in the band that 4078 02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:48,479 never wore earplugs so oh gosh 4079 02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:50,319 i don't hear anything it's crazy like i 4080 02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:52,160 can sit in a room full of like 4081 02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:54,560 literally like uh like a couple months 4082 02:19:58,469 --> 02:19:55,200 ago 4083 02:19:59,270 --> 02:19:58,479 it was it was uh uh there was a birthday 4084 02:20:00,950 --> 02:19:59,280 party 4085 02:20:02,710 --> 02:20:00,960 uh at my sister-in-law's house and there 4086 02:20:04,389 --> 02:20:02,720 was like 12 people in there 4087 02:20:05,830 --> 02:20:04,399 and i literally just sat on the couch 4088 02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:05,840 and i passed out and everybody's like 4089 02:20:09,910 --> 02:20:07,840 yelling and partying and stuff like 4090 02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:09,920 i tuned stuff out so easy it's 4091 02:20:14,870 --> 02:20:11,840 ridiculous that's a gift 4092 02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:14,880 that is a gift confirm 4093 02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:17,520 i'd yeah my wife did hear the beeping we 4094 02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:18,640 don't know where it's coming from 4095 02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:20,960 so i apologize that's okay i can't hear 4096 02:20:24,630 --> 02:20:22,880 it through here so hopefully okay 4097 02:20:26,630 --> 02:20:24,640 all right good good good yeah really 4098 02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:26,640 sensitive hearing okay oh my gosh 4099 02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:29,680 i like the like the most intense part 4100 02:20:43,270 --> 02:20:39,510 uh so okay you like t-shirts 4101 02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:43,280 we got the ones for you everybody likes 4102 02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:44,080 some silk 4103 02:20:49,270 --> 02:20:47,280 on their neck okay so you said it's 4104 02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:49,280 gonna get even crazier 4105 02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:51,760 and more intense than this shuttle craft 4106 02:20:55,750 --> 02:20:53,760 being the same thing that has been 4107 02:20:58,870 --> 02:20:55,760 depicted in cosmic disclosure 4108 02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:58,880 now that's a very controversial yes and 4109 02:21:01,030 --> 02:20:59,120 and 4110 02:21:02,389 --> 02:21:01,040 we try to stay away from his story 4111 02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:02,399 because we talk 4112 02:21:06,230 --> 02:21:04,720 i talked about it i just loved the story 4113 02:21:07,349 --> 02:21:06,240 so much when we first started this 4114 02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:07,359 podcast and then 4115 02:21:11,510 --> 02:21:09,520 new information came out and we try not 4116 02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:11,520 to really mention it because it's like 4117 02:21:16,389 --> 02:21:14,800 uh we don't really want to i it's fine 4118 02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:16,399 no because it's like because now it's 4119 02:21:20,389 --> 02:21:18,240 your story that you also 4120 02:21:21,429 --> 02:21:20,399 experience something very the stories 4121 02:21:23,830 --> 02:21:21,439 are are 4122 02:21:25,030 --> 02:21:23,840 are like i mean yeah you can't go wrong 4123 02:21:27,990 --> 02:21:25,040 with the stories 4124 02:21:28,790 --> 02:21:28,000 it's more so like the person telling it 4125 02:21:30,790 --> 02:21:28,800 i guess that's 4126 02:21:32,710 --> 02:21:30,800 that's the issue right that's the big 4127 02:21:34,790 --> 02:21:32,720 thing but fun fact i don't know if you 4128 02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:34,800 knew this but the secret space program 4129 02:21:38,309 --> 02:21:35,680 uniform 4130 02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:38,319 they have slinkies on their hats 4131 02:21:42,309 --> 02:21:40,720 slinky's on their ass on their hats 4132 02:21:42,830 --> 02:21:42,319 oh on their hats well the ass would be 4133 02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:42,840 better 4134 02:21:48,389 --> 02:21:44,560 [Laughter] 4135 02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:48,399 how did you say that yes i agree 4136 02:21:55,750 --> 02:21:53,920 they'll follow around with slinky tails 4137 02:21:57,990 --> 02:21:55,760 yes 4138 02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:58,000 i want i want to hear the the i hadn't 4139 02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:00,080 heard that 4140 02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:02,080 so the space the space the secret space 4141 02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:04,080 program their uniform 4142 02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:06,319 it's it's it's what you would expect out 4143 02:22:10,389 --> 02:22:08,319 of a military guard but yeah 4144 02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:10,399 the thing that that separates the the 4145 02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:11,920 different levels is the 4146 02:22:15,830 --> 02:22:13,840 the length of the slinky that is 4147 02:22:20,830 --> 02:22:15,840 attached that is affixed to this 4148 02:22:23,670 --> 02:22:20,840 top of that so yes sir 4149 02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:23,680 yes so as you get higher up the slinky 4150 02:22:31,590 --> 02:22:24,000 gets 4151 02:22:37,110 --> 02:22:31,600 longer let's smack people around with it 4152 02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:37,120 corporal throwing it for effect 4153 02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:40,560 yes yes so yes 4154 02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:42,160 everybody everybody gets tangled there's 4155 02:22:48,309 --> 02:22:46,790 oh damn it oh you're trying to get it 4156 02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:48,319 untangled we always talked about like an 4157 02:22:52,469 --> 02:22:50,000 auditorium full of soldiers with 4158 02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:52,479 slinkies on their heads 4159 02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:54,160 and you spend most of the day like 4160 02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:55,600 getting you those jingles 4161 02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:57,520 trying to untangle not untangle those 4162 02:22:59,600 --> 02:22:59,200 things once they get tangled up it's 4163 02:23:01,349 --> 02:22:59,610 just like 4164 02:23:02,830 --> 02:23:01,359 [Laughter] 4165 02:23:05,030 --> 02:23:02,840 they're the best slinkys they're the 4166 02:23:07,190 --> 02:23:05,040 best can you imagine that would be 4167 02:23:09,190 --> 02:23:07,200 ridiculous 4168 02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:09,200 that's hilarious no i did not see slinky 4169 02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:11,760 hats i will say that 4170 02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:13,920 okay well then that debunks our thoughts 4171 02:23:16,870 --> 02:23:15,200 out but i like it 4172 02:23:18,309 --> 02:23:16,880 i like it maybe that was a different 4173 02:23:19,750 --> 02:23:18,319 ship sometimes you gotta shoot for the 4174 02:23:20,950 --> 02:23:19,760 stars you know sometimes you're right 4175 02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:20,960 sometimes you're wrong 4176 02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:22,560 yeah this way it goes a different branch 4177 02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:24,000 you never know yeah 4178 02:23:27,750 --> 02:23:26,560 yeah exactly yeah so the stupid slinky 4179 02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:27,760 program is what we're 4180 02:23:32,070 --> 02:23:30,800 thinking about yes this super slinky i 4181 02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:32,080 love it 4182 02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:35,200 that's awesome oh my gosh 4183 02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:37,200 okay so we keep we keep sidetracking 4184 02:23:39,990 --> 02:23:38,560 from the from 4185 02:23:41,670 --> 02:23:40,000 the more intense part of the story why 4186 02:23:45,429 --> 02:23:41,680 don't we keep doing that 4187 02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:45,439 i want to hear it ready go okay so 4188 02:23:50,469 --> 02:23:49,600 um so so i was in the in the regression 4189 02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:50,479 i was 4190 02:23:54,309 --> 02:23:53,920 a it what happened in a couple of phases 4191 02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:54,319 like 4192 02:23:57,910 --> 02:23:56,080 the very first time i went up and saw 4193 02:23:59,670 --> 02:23:57,920 the ship i was younger and these like 4194 02:24:02,230 --> 02:23:59,680 beings came to my house 4195 02:24:03,750 --> 02:24:02,240 and i remember my stepmom was there my 4196 02:24:05,429 --> 02:24:03,760 brother was there and they came in and i 4197 02:24:06,790 --> 02:24:05,439 was just kind of like 4198 02:24:08,469 --> 02:24:06,800 because they were wearing it almost 4199 02:24:09,910 --> 02:24:08,479 looked like these black 4200 02:24:11,510 --> 02:24:09,920 almost like you would imagine like a 4201 02:24:13,030 --> 02:24:11,520 like a motorcycle suit you know just 4202 02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:13,040 like all black and they had these dark 4203 02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:14,560 helmets like and the glass was all 4204 02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:15,520 blacked out like you would 4205 02:24:19,270 --> 02:24:17,359 like you know you've seen those like 4206 02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:19,280 very like ninja looking motorcycle 4207 02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:20,000 outfits like 4208 02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:21,760 yeah you see who i am it was one of 4209 02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:23,600 those and so there were these like two 4210 02:24:28,710 --> 02:24:25,600 guys that walked in like very tall 4211 02:24:30,150 --> 02:24:28,720 and i was just kind of like and nobody 4212 02:24:31,830 --> 02:24:30,160 seemed to notice them but me 4213 02:24:33,030 --> 02:24:31,840 and they were like you know come with us 4214 02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:33,040 we got to take you somewhere and i was 4215 02:24:36,550 --> 02:24:33,760 just kind of like 4216 02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:36,560 okay uh and i was probably like seven or 4217 02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:37,840 eight i think at this point i can't 4218 02:24:40,389 --> 02:24:38,960 remember exactly 4219 02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:40,399 and that's where i saw the shuttlecraft 4220 02:24:45,910 --> 02:24:43,439 and it took me up to this bigger craft 4221 02:24:46,630 --> 02:24:45,920 and it was so strange looking because it 4222 02:24:49,670 --> 02:24:46,640 was like 4223 02:24:51,349 --> 02:24:49,680 rectangular in shape almost like the way 4224 02:24:54,389 --> 02:24:51,359 i described it was like a sides 4225 02:24:55,990 --> 02:24:54,399 like a skyscraper on its side that's how 4226 02:24:58,150 --> 02:24:56,000 it looked like it was just very long 4227 02:25:00,150 --> 02:24:58,160 and rectangular but yeah it was like not 4228 02:25:03,910 --> 02:25:00,160 how you would imagine a spacecraft look 4229 02:25:07,110 --> 02:25:03,920 at all yeah and and i remember going in 4230 02:25:10,710 --> 02:25:09,110 i don't know like i have very weird ways 4231 02:25:13,670 --> 02:25:10,720 of like 4232 02:25:15,190 --> 02:25:13,680 um describing it but it reminded me of 4233 02:25:16,150 --> 02:25:15,200 you know when you go in a mall and you 4234 02:25:18,150 --> 02:25:16,160 have the like 4235 02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:18,160 the bottom floor but you can look up and 4236 02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:19,840 see like the other levels 4237 02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:21,600 oh yeah yeah so like the center of the 4238 02:25:23,990 --> 02:25:23,439 ship was like that there was this area 4239 02:25:26,630 --> 02:25:24,000 in the center 4240 02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:26,640 and there was kind of this like um it 4241 02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:27,680 was almost like a 4242 02:25:32,070 --> 02:25:30,000 like a not a park but it had like these 4243 02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:32,080 plants and this like pond it was like a 4244 02:25:36,389 --> 02:25:33,920 place to go i guess to kind of like 4245 02:25:38,630 --> 02:25:36,399 chill out and relax and then you could 4246 02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:38,640 see the other levels on either side of 4247 02:25:41,110 --> 02:25:39,040 you 4248 02:25:42,469 --> 02:25:41,120 and i remember walking on those levels 4249 02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:42,479 too and it was like a metal 4250 02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:45,280 grate and i was kind of looking at some 4251 02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:46,560 of the like 4252 02:25:49,750 --> 02:25:48,240 rooms as i went by and there was one 4253 02:25:52,150 --> 02:25:49,760 that looked like it might have been 4254 02:25:53,429 --> 02:25:52,160 you know like a like a doctor's clinic 4255 02:25:54,710 --> 02:25:53,439 or something like that there was another 4256 02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:54,720 one that had these weird things and 4257 02:25:58,469 --> 02:25:56,160 weird like 4258 02:25:59,510 --> 02:25:58,479 jars and you know liquid and all kinds 4259 02:25:59,750 --> 02:25:59,520 of weird things that you would think you 4260 02:26:02,309 --> 02:25:59,760 would 4261 02:26:03,190 --> 02:26:02,319 see and then i went to this classroom 4262 02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:03,200 and there were all these 4263 02:26:08,550 --> 02:26:06,319 kids and they were um 4264 02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:08,560 they were sort of like playing or 4265 02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:10,080 practicing with these they look like 4266 02:26:14,389 --> 02:26:11,280 balls of plasma 4267 02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:14,399 almost like with their hands somehow 4268 02:26:18,309 --> 02:26:16,479 and so this one kid he was like hey come 4269 02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:18,319 in and try this and he's like 4270 02:26:20,870 --> 02:26:19,520 he showed me how to do it he was like 4271 02:26:22,550 --> 02:26:20,880 you hold it like you weren't touching it 4272 02:26:24,389 --> 02:26:22,560 but it was like in between your hands 4273 02:26:25,990 --> 02:26:24,399 and he was like just you know go in and 4274 02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:26,000 out and you can make the ball get larger 4275 02:26:29,429 --> 02:26:27,200 or smaller 4276 02:26:30,550 --> 02:26:29,439 and so i was like okay so i tried it and 4277 02:26:31,990 --> 02:26:30,560 i was kind of at some 4278 02:26:33,670 --> 02:26:32,000 after a while i was able to like make 4279 02:26:34,230 --> 02:26:33,680 the ball kind of grow and make it and it 4280 02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:34,240 was 4281 02:26:37,510 --> 02:26:35,840 it's sort of like witchcraft i guess 4282 02:26:39,910 --> 02:26:37,520 like using your intention 4283 02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:39,920 and like connecting with the energy and 4284 02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:41,040 so then 4285 02:26:44,469 --> 02:26:43,120 they they were like okay you know very 4286 02:26:47,110 --> 02:26:44,479 good these same two guys 4287 02:26:48,230 --> 02:26:47,120 in the black uniforms were still with me 4288 02:26:49,830 --> 02:26:48,240 and they were just like okay we've got 4289 02:26:52,230 --> 02:26:49,840 to take you somewhere else 4290 02:26:54,230 --> 02:26:52,240 and so they took me down like a couple 4291 02:26:56,710 --> 02:26:54,240 different like turns twists and turns 4292 02:26:58,150 --> 02:26:56,720 and they were all these like i think 4293 02:26:59,670 --> 02:26:58,160 they were offices i don't know the doors 4294 02:27:00,150 --> 02:26:59,680 were closed so you couldn't see inside 4295 02:27:02,230 --> 02:27:00,160 of them 4296 02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:02,240 but they took me to this one and this is 4297 02:27:06,790 --> 02:27:04,560 where it gets really crazy 4298 02:27:08,790 --> 02:27:06,800 i open it up and they're like go ahead 4299 02:27:10,070 --> 02:27:08,800 go on in so i go in there and my dad's 4300 02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:10,080 in there which is very strange 4301 02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:12,080 my dad was he when he retired he was a 4302 02:27:16,870 --> 02:27:13,840 colonel in the air force 4303 02:27:17,349 --> 02:27:16,880 and so my dad was in there i was like 4304 02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:17,359 what 4305 02:27:23,910 --> 02:27:22,000 was just like he had this desk and i was 4306 02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:23,920 sitting at his desk and he was just like 4307 02:27:26,950 --> 02:27:25,520 how did you like the i can't remember 4308 02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:26,960 what he called the plasma ball thing 4309 02:27:28,710 --> 02:27:28,080 he's like how did you like that did you 4310 02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:28,720 have fun 4311 02:27:32,710 --> 02:27:30,640 and i was like yeah it was really cool 4312 02:27:35,030 --> 02:27:32,720 but what are you doing here like 4313 02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:35,040 what is this you know like and he was 4314 02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:36,399 just like let me show you something and 4315 02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:38,080 he pushed this like button 4316 02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:40,080 on his desk and the whole wall behind 4317 02:27:43,190 --> 02:27:41,439 him like 4318 02:27:44,870 --> 02:27:43,200 like changed into like glass like a 4319 02:27:45,670 --> 02:27:44,880 window and that's where i could see the 4320 02:27:47,990 --> 02:27:45,680 moon so we were 4321 02:27:49,030 --> 02:27:48,000 like hovering right above the moon and i 4322 02:27:52,950 --> 02:27:49,040 was just kind of like 4323 02:27:55,750 --> 02:27:52,960 what that's awesome like it was so 4324 02:27:57,990 --> 02:27:55,760 so crazy like it was so detailed like i 4325 02:28:00,389 --> 02:27:58,000 was literally looking at the moon right 4326 02:28:01,910 --> 02:28:00,399 and so i was like oh my gosh like that's 4327 02:28:03,349 --> 02:28:01,920 crazy and he was like okay i just wanted 4328 02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:03,359 you to see all of this it's time for you 4329 02:28:05,990 --> 02:28:04,160 to go home 4330 02:28:07,270 --> 02:28:06,000 they'll take you back and so the same 4331 02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:07,280 two guys that were with me the whole 4332 02:28:10,309 --> 02:28:07,840 time like 4333 02:28:11,750 --> 02:28:10,319 you know kind of took me back and i 4334 02:28:12,389 --> 02:28:11,760 remember when i came back i said to my 4335 02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:12,399 stepmom 4336 02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:13,680 and my brother i was like didn't you 4337 02:28:17,270 --> 02:28:16,000 guys see this like did you even realize 4338 02:28:18,389 --> 02:28:17,280 i was gone because they were still just 4339 02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:18,399 doing whatever and like 4340 02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:19,840 paid no attention actually like nothing 4341 02:28:22,870 --> 02:28:21,520 had happened they were like no we don't 4342 02:28:24,870 --> 02:28:22,880 know what you're talking about 4343 02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:24,880 it's like okay that's very strange and 4344 02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:26,080 then 4345 02:28:30,070 --> 02:28:27,840 do you think it was actually your dad or 4346 02:28:32,070 --> 02:28:30,080 do you think maybe that was a screen 4347 02:28:33,510 --> 02:28:32,080 no it was definitely my dad because then 4348 02:28:36,630 --> 02:28:33,520 i had later on 4349 02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:36,640 it like we kind of skipped ahead in time 4350 02:28:40,469 --> 02:28:39,120 and the way that the the psychologist 4351 02:28:41,830 --> 02:28:40,479 did it it was really interesting it was 4352 02:28:43,349 --> 02:28:41,840 kind of like he had you almost like go 4353 02:28:45,030 --> 02:28:43,359 into an elevator and then 4354 02:28:46,389 --> 02:28:45,040 you open up the elevator at a different 4355 02:28:48,950 --> 02:28:46,399 time and you'd be like now tell me how 4356 02:28:51,429 --> 02:28:48,960 old you are and i was like well i'm 24. 4357 02:28:52,309 --> 02:28:51,439 and so i was on the ship as a crew 4358 02:28:54,070 --> 02:28:52,319 member 4359 02:28:55,830 --> 02:28:54,080 and that was where i talked about 4360 02:28:59,030 --> 02:28:55,840 interfacing with the aliens 4361 02:29:01,429 --> 02:28:59,040 um and then i also had my 4362 02:29:02,309 --> 02:29:01,439 my kind of department was working with 4363 02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:02,319 the like 4364 02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:05,439 alien animals so we would get specimens 4365 02:29:08,150 --> 02:29:06,640 and bring them in and i would be the one 4366 02:29:09,590 --> 02:29:08,160 to take care of them and then there were 4367 02:29:11,110 --> 02:29:09,600 kids on the ship and sometimes i 4368 02:29:12,630 --> 02:29:11,120 like the kids would come in and i would 4369 02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,640 show them these animals and 4370 02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:14,319 and teach them about them and just care 4371 02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:15,520 for the animals because i've always 4372 02:29:18,950 --> 02:29:17,120 loved animals always 4373 02:29:21,830 --> 02:29:18,960 and i always wanted to be a vet when i 4374 02:29:23,270 --> 02:29:21,840 was a little kid and so 4375 02:29:25,750 --> 02:29:23,280 that totally made sense to me that i 4376 02:29:27,990 --> 02:29:25,760 would be doing you know a job like that 4377 02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:28,000 and but my main job really was 4378 02:29:31,429 --> 02:29:29,520 interfacing with the beings when we went 4379 02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:31,439 to a new place to like talk to them and 4380 02:29:34,830 --> 02:29:32,560 get to know them and 4381 02:29:36,550 --> 02:29:34,840 kind of like be act as a translator 4382 02:29:38,870 --> 02:29:36,560 really and 4383 02:29:40,469 --> 02:29:38,880 but my dad was on the ship again and i 4384 02:29:43,030 --> 02:29:40,479 remember him saying 4385 02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:43,040 um nobody knows you're my daughter and 4386 02:29:46,710 --> 02:29:44,560 it's better that way 4387 02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:46,720 so if i act like i don't really know you 4388 02:29:48,870 --> 02:29:47,680 that's why 4389 02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:48,880 because i don't want them to know that 4390 02:29:51,830 --> 02:29:50,800 you're my daughter and i was just kind 4391 02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:51,840 of like 4392 02:29:54,630 --> 02:29:53,520 a little weird but he's like it could be 4393 02:29:55,510 --> 02:29:54,640 dangerous if they know you're my 4394 02:29:58,790 --> 02:29:55,520 daughter 4395 02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:58,800 and i was like okay well all right 4396 02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:00,000 that's weird 4397 02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:03,280 um and that's pretty much all i 4398 02:30:08,630 --> 02:30:06,640 really remember from that part of it 4399 02:30:10,469 --> 02:30:08,640 but then later i was talking to my 4400 02:30:12,309 --> 02:30:10,479 friend oh the same one who ran that 4401 02:30:15,190 --> 02:30:12,319 support group that i said reminded me of 4402 02:30:16,070 --> 02:30:15,200 uh people of earth and i was like 4403 02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:16,080 describing 4404 02:30:20,070 --> 02:30:18,000 this ship and i was like it was so 4405 02:30:22,469 --> 02:30:20,080 bizarre and she goes 4406 02:30:23,910 --> 02:30:22,479 it was rectangular right and i was like 4407 02:30:25,429 --> 02:30:23,920 yes 4408 02:30:27,190 --> 02:30:25,439 and she's like and then she described 4409 02:30:28,630 --> 02:30:27,200 the inside the same way like 4410 02:30:29,750 --> 02:30:28,640 like i was like where i was talking 4411 02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:29,760 about how you could see the different 4412 02:30:32,870 --> 02:30:31,120 levels from the world 4413 02:30:34,550 --> 02:30:32,880 like she was like described and i wasn't 4414 02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:34,560 telling her any of these things i hadn't 4415 02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:35,840 told her anything 4416 02:30:39,590 --> 02:30:37,760 i just said i had this like i was like 4417 02:30:41,429 --> 02:30:39,600 oh yeah like it was all secret space 4418 02:30:44,550 --> 02:30:41,439 program why why 4419 02:30:45,190 --> 02:30:44,560 and um and then we were talking more and 4420 02:30:47,750 --> 02:30:45,200 so when i 4421 02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:47,760 first went to college um i started out 4422 02:30:50,710 --> 02:30:49,600 as a zoology major because i wanted to 4423 02:30:52,150 --> 02:30:50,720 go to vet school and 4424 02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:52,160 the school that i went to in ohio they 4425 02:30:56,070 --> 02:30:54,240 didn't have like a pre-vet program so 4426 02:30:57,750 --> 02:30:56,080 you either went microbiology or zoology 4427 02:31:00,469 --> 02:30:57,760 so i went in zoology 4428 02:31:01,910 --> 02:31:00,479 and i was always an honor student like 4429 02:31:03,429 --> 02:31:01,920 throughout high school i never had an 4430 02:31:04,870 --> 02:31:03,439 issue with school was never difficult 4431 02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:04,880 for me but 4432 02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:07,200 when i first went to school like the 4433 02:31:11,030 --> 02:31:09,040 very first week i somehow got 4434 02:31:12,389 --> 02:31:11,040 mono which i don't know how i got 4435 02:31:14,150 --> 02:31:12,399 because one i didn't kiss anybody and 4436 02:31:17,670 --> 02:31:14,160 two i didn't drink after anybody 4437 02:31:20,550 --> 02:31:17,680 but somehow i got mono and i totally 4438 02:31:22,790 --> 02:31:20,560 like failed my first semester and 4439 02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:22,800 because i was sleeping during most of it 4440 02:31:26,950 --> 02:31:25,600 and then we met with these like people 4441 02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:26,960 representatives from different vet 4442 02:31:30,870 --> 02:31:28,560 schools and they were like 4443 02:31:32,070 --> 02:31:30,880 um you're just gonna need to change your 4444 02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:32,080 major because there's no way you're 4445 02:31:35,030 --> 02:31:33,520 getting into vet school like there's 4446 02:31:36,309 --> 02:31:35,040 there were only 11 of them at the time 4447 02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:36,319 in the country and it's super 4448 02:31:38,790 --> 02:31:37,359 competitive 4449 02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:38,800 he was like you've already like ruined 4450 02:31:40,790 --> 02:31:39,760 like you're never going to be able to 4451 02:31:41,990 --> 02:31:40,800 get into vet school you might want to 4452 02:31:43,590 --> 02:31:42,000 find something else 4453 02:31:45,110 --> 02:31:43,600 and so i was like god damn it and so i 4454 02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:45,120 was telling her like because we were 4455 02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:46,240 talking because she was like 4456 02:31:49,349 --> 02:31:47,600 you know one of the things about the 4457 02:31:50,950 --> 02:31:49,359 secret space program is they kind of 4458 02:31:53,349 --> 02:31:50,960 like when you're done they 4459 02:31:54,950 --> 02:31:53,359 they program you to not go into anything 4460 02:31:55,750 --> 02:31:54,960 that would maybe trigger some of these 4461 02:31:57,110 --> 02:31:55,760 memories 4462 02:31:59,030 --> 02:31:57,120 and so that's when i started telling her 4463 02:31:59,910 --> 02:31:59,040 about like well you know it was really 4464 02:32:02,070 --> 02:31:59,920 weird that i got 4465 02:32:03,910 --> 02:32:02,080 mono in school when i was a zoology 4466 02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:03,920 major and then i had to like 4467 02:32:08,070 --> 02:32:06,240 switch majors she was like well that's 4468 02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:08,080 not really all that weird if you think 4469 02:32:12,389 --> 02:32:10,000 about it and i was kind of like 4470 02:32:13,510 --> 02:32:12,399 it's a little weird for sure like it's 4471 02:32:16,630 --> 02:32:13,520 strange 4472 02:32:17,750 --> 02:32:16,640 i know it's crazy holy [\h__\h] do you think 4473 02:32:22,389 --> 02:32:17,760 maybe they were 4474 02:32:25,429 --> 02:32:22,399 guiding you in a way to to say look like 4475 02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:25,439 were they was this decision let's let's 4476 02:32:29,030 --> 02:32:25,840 just 4477 02:32:29,990 --> 02:32:29,040 say that it was a guided decision to not 4478 02:32:33,110 --> 02:32:30,000 have you be 4479 02:32:35,030 --> 02:32:33,120 a a college grad in zoology 4480 02:32:37,110 --> 02:32:35,040 right do you think if they they were 4481 02:32:39,590 --> 02:32:37,120 like we wanna we covet that 4482 02:32:40,550 --> 02:32:39,600 uh strength of yours so we we want that 4483 02:32:43,750 --> 02:32:40,560 side of you so you 4484 02:32:46,150 --> 02:32:43,760 you on in the matrix do something else 4485 02:32:47,590 --> 02:32:46,160 well i think at that point so you know 4486 02:32:49,030 --> 02:32:47,600 how they talk about like the age 4487 02:32:52,230 --> 02:32:49,040 regression and in my 4488 02:32:53,110 --> 02:32:52,240 in my my regression uh my hypnotic 4489 02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:53,120 regression 4490 02:32:57,349 --> 02:32:56,080 i did remember like just a very vague 4491 02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:57,359 memory of like 4492 02:33:00,950 --> 02:32:59,760 being taken when i was like 18 and then 4493 02:33:03,030 --> 02:33:00,960 being brought back 4494 02:33:04,710 --> 02:33:03,040 after 20 years when i was 18 or however 4495 02:33:06,630 --> 02:33:04,720 many years it was i think it was 4496 02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:06,640 it was approximately like 10 to 20 years 4497 02:33:09,910 --> 02:33:07,920 or whatever so 4498 02:33:11,349 --> 02:33:09,920 there must have been that age regression 4499 02:33:11,750 --> 02:33:11,359 type thing that you've heard about which 4500 02:33:16,389 --> 02:33:11,760 i 4501 02:33:19,990 --> 02:33:16,399 be 4502 02:33:22,230 --> 02:33:20,000 true um but so 4503 02:33:24,070 --> 02:33:22,240 what my friend had said was that you 4504 02:33:25,670 --> 02:33:24,080 know what they do is when they're doing 4505 02:33:28,950 --> 02:33:25,680 that like age regression 4506 02:33:30,710 --> 02:33:28,960 they also kind of program you to steer 4507 02:33:31,750 --> 02:33:30,720 clear of anything that might trigger the 4508 02:33:33,670 --> 02:33:31,760 memories 4509 02:33:35,429 --> 02:33:33,680 and so if i worked with animals on the 4510 02:33:36,950 --> 02:33:35,439 ship yeah like and then going and being 4511 02:33:38,950 --> 02:33:36,960 a vet 4512 02:33:40,870 --> 02:33:38,960 that might trigger those memories gosh 4513 02:33:43,429 --> 02:33:40,880 yeah okay you said that i just i didn't 4514 02:33:43,910 --> 02:33:43,439 it didn't click so what's interesting 4515 02:33:45,670 --> 02:33:43,920 that or 4516 02:33:47,590 --> 02:33:45,680 i feel like it needs to be said is that 4517 02:33:50,710 --> 02:33:47,600 a lot of these uh 4518 02:33:52,469 --> 02:33:50,720 these intricacies and stories uh the 4519 02:33:55,510 --> 02:33:52,479 gentleman that we mentioned earlier 4520 02:33:57,190 --> 02:33:55,520 uh with that specific uh tv program that 4521 02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:57,200 was very good but like 4522 02:34:01,510 --> 02:34:00,000 oh man what happened but like what 4523 02:34:03,429 --> 02:34:01,520 happened is that he took 4524 02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:03,439 a lot of different pieces from a lot of 4525 02:34:08,389 --> 02:34:05,920 other people's real ass stories 4526 02:34:09,750 --> 02:34:08,399 yeah that's what sucks is that it now 4527 02:34:11,750 --> 02:34:09,760 anybody that mentioned that 4528 02:34:13,590 --> 02:34:11,760 mentions that it's almost like it was a 4529 02:34:14,070 --> 02:34:13,600 psyop in some way i'm i'm starting to 4530 02:34:17,190 --> 02:34:14,080 like 4531 02:34:22,389 --> 02:34:17,200 to 4532 02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:22,399 and shun anybody that talks about it i 4533 02:34:24,950 --> 02:34:22,960 mean 4534 02:34:25,990 --> 02:34:24,960 if if that's what they did they 4535 02:34:28,389 --> 02:34:26,000 succeeded because 4536 02:34:30,070 --> 02:34:28,399 right like we don't even touch that now 4537 02:34:31,429 --> 02:34:30,080 but it's like my favorite [\h__\h] to talk 4538 02:34:32,950 --> 02:34:31,439 about like i know i mean you should we 4539 02:34:34,150 --> 02:34:32,960 could talk about it i want to know more 4540 02:34:35,750 --> 02:34:34,160 because i don't remember 4541 02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:35,760 a lot i mean that's pretty much all i 4542 02:34:38,870 --> 02:34:37,920 remember but they've like i said they 4543 02:34:41,030 --> 02:34:38,880 feel like very 4544 02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:41,040 real memories so for me it's it's 4545 02:34:46,070 --> 02:34:42,720 difficult because i have that 4546 02:34:48,630 --> 02:34:46,080 like that conflict within me like 4547 02:34:50,469 --> 02:34:48,640 this like really like could that 4548 02:34:53,030 --> 02:34:50,479 possibly have happened but this still 4549 02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:53,040 feels like a very real memory and i 4550 02:34:56,230 --> 02:34:54,640 didn't know about any of i hadn't 4551 02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:56,240 watched that show before i had the 4552 02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:57,120 regression like 4553 02:35:00,150 --> 02:34:58,720 it was only after i had the regression 4554 02:35:01,910 --> 02:35:00,160 that was like okay 4555 02:35:03,750 --> 02:35:01,920 this is all kind of really bizarre let 4556 02:35:04,150 --> 02:35:03,760 me look into this more and that's when i 4557 02:35:05,510 --> 02:35:04,160 started 4558 02:35:07,670 --> 02:35:05,520 like researching the secret space 4559 02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:07,680 program and that 4560 02:35:11,110 --> 02:35:09,760 yeah it was just like it was very trippy 4561 02:35:13,990 --> 02:35:11,120 because i was just kind of like 4562 02:35:15,429 --> 02:35:14,000 what i was talking about super into that 4563 02:35:17,510 --> 02:35:15,439 right somebody had a question 4564 02:35:20,309 --> 02:35:17,520 and they said they asked if if your 4565 02:35:23,670 --> 02:35:20,319 father was ever regressed 4566 02:35:26,230 --> 02:35:23,680 my father and i don't really 4567 02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:26,240 have like much of a relationship anymore 4568 02:35:30,790 --> 02:35:28,240 but he never would be the type that 4569 02:35:34,230 --> 02:35:30,800 would do that the only thing he was very 4570 02:35:34,710 --> 02:35:34,240 very um very military you know like he 4571 02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:34,720 would never 4572 02:35:37,990 --> 02:35:35,840 if there was something he wasn't 4573 02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:38,000 supposed to tell he wouldn't say it um 4574 02:35:41,910 --> 02:35:39,600 so i don't think he would ever 4575 02:35:42,710 --> 02:35:41,920 go and have a regression done because he 4576 02:35:44,790 --> 02:35:42,720 he wouldn't 4577 02:35:46,150 --> 02:35:44,800 he just wouldn't do it but the one thing 4578 02:35:48,389 --> 02:35:46,160 he did say to me 4579 02:35:49,349 --> 02:35:48,399 when we were in ohio he was stationed at 4580 02:35:51,429 --> 02:35:49,359 right pad which 4581 02:35:52,630 --> 02:35:51,439 obviously there's a lot you know goes 4582 02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:52,640 along with right pat 4583 02:35:55,990 --> 02:35:54,479 and this was very out of character for 4584 02:35:56,630 --> 02:35:56,000 him so i remember it i was in high 4585 02:35:59,429 --> 02:35:56,640 school 4586 02:36:00,790 --> 02:35:59,439 and he was just like um and we were just 4587 02:36:02,469 --> 02:36:00,800 like standing in the kitchen talking he 4588 02:36:04,790 --> 02:36:02,479 was like hey i got a question for you 4589 02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:04,800 do you think aliens exist and i was just 4590 02:36:07,510 --> 02:36:05,920 kind of like 4591 02:36:09,110 --> 02:36:07,520 it's really weird but this was before i 4592 02:36:10,469 --> 02:36:09,120 had gotten into any of this stuff you 4593 02:36:11,910 --> 02:36:10,479 know so i was kind of like okay this is 4594 02:36:13,429 --> 02:36:11,920 a weird question but maybe he's just in 4595 02:36:15,270 --> 02:36:13,439 a very philosophical mood 4596 02:36:17,110 --> 02:36:15,280 you know so i was just like well yeah of 4597 02:36:19,750 --> 02:36:17,120 course i mean the universe is so big 4598 02:36:20,710 --> 02:36:19,760 how could like we be the only like 4599 02:36:23,110 --> 02:36:20,720 beings 4600 02:36:24,389 --> 02:36:23,120 in this universe like i just like that 4601 02:36:26,230 --> 02:36:24,399 makes no sense to me 4602 02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:26,240 so of course i think aliens exist and he 4603 02:36:30,550 --> 02:36:28,640 was just kind of like 4604 02:36:32,230 --> 02:36:30,560 that was his response and that was it 4605 02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:32,240 the conversation was over 4606 02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:35,439 wow yeah so i had this like smile on his 4607 02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:38,560 face and so my dad what he did 4608 02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:41,680 gets even stranger so my dad was 4609 02:36:46,469 --> 02:36:45,040 um i don't think he was the 4610 02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:46,479 i don't think he was in charge of 4611 02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:48,080 material command i think he was like the 4612 02:36:51,590 --> 02:36:49,040 deputy 4613 02:36:53,429 --> 02:36:51,600 um commander of material command at 4614 02:36:55,670 --> 02:36:53,439 right pat which basically means 4615 02:36:56,630 --> 02:36:55,680 my dad was a civil engineer so basically 4616 02:36:59,750 --> 02:36:56,640 means he 4617 02:37:01,910 --> 02:36:59,760 was kind of second in command to the 4618 02:37:02,790 --> 02:37:01,920 the running of the base making sure that 4619 02:37:04,790 --> 02:37:02,800 everything 4620 02:37:06,389 --> 02:37:04,800 did what it was supposed to do so the 4621 02:37:08,469 --> 02:37:06,399 police were under him 4622 02:37:10,309 --> 02:37:08,479 you know like all of the the building 4623 02:37:12,790 --> 02:37:10,319 maintenance the construction 4624 02:37:13,990 --> 02:37:12,800 anything that had to do with the base 4625 02:37:16,790 --> 02:37:14,000 infrastructure 4626 02:37:19,349 --> 02:37:16,800 was under him like that was what he was 4627 02:37:21,190 --> 02:37:19,359 in charge of so he had to have known 4628 02:37:22,870 --> 02:37:21,200 pretty much everything about the base 4629 02:37:24,070 --> 02:37:22,880 it's a very important person to have on 4630 02:37:27,910 --> 02:37:24,080 a spaceship 4631 02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:27,920 yeah exactly so that's why it's weird it 4632 02:37:31,190 --> 02:37:28,880 gets weird 4633 02:37:32,550 --> 02:37:31,200 and then okay one more really really 4634 02:37:35,590 --> 02:37:32,560 weird thing wow 4635 02:37:38,630 --> 02:37:35,600 so then i in my 4636 02:37:42,389 --> 02:37:38,640 i think i was like in my mid-20s i was 4637 02:37:46,070 --> 02:37:44,150 what was that school that i went to like 4638 02:37:47,030 --> 02:37:46,080 i was like just thinking to myself i had 4639 02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:47,040 this memory 4640 02:37:50,070 --> 02:37:48,880 of like when i was it was on an air 4641 02:37:51,830 --> 02:37:50,080 force base 4642 02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:51,840 and but i was young and it was like i 4643 02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:53,359 remember this like white van coming to 4644 02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:54,800 pick me up and take me to the school and 4645 02:37:57,510 --> 02:37:56,000 it was just like a generic if you've 4646 02:37:58,710 --> 02:37:57,520 ever been on an air force base a lot of 4647 02:38:00,950 --> 02:37:58,720 it's like very like 4648 02:38:02,790 --> 02:38:00,960 you know single level like red brick 4649 02:38:04,389 --> 02:38:02,800 buildings very nondescript 4650 02:38:05,830 --> 02:38:04,399 um and that's what the school looked 4651 02:38:07,429 --> 02:38:05,840 like but it was i remember like it was a 4652 02:38:08,389 --> 02:38:07,439 white van like they came to pick us up 4653 02:38:10,389 --> 02:38:08,399 instead of a school bus 4654 02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:10,399 and i was like what was that that's so 4655 02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:11,760 weird because i just had this like 4656 02:38:14,710 --> 02:38:12,800 memory of it 4657 02:38:16,389 --> 02:38:14,720 and so i was talking to my stepmom on 4658 02:38:17,590 --> 02:38:16,399 the phone and i was like hey what was 4659 02:38:19,190 --> 02:38:17,600 that school that i went to on the 4660 02:38:21,830 --> 02:38:19,200 military base you know 4661 02:38:23,030 --> 02:38:21,840 um when i was younger what was that i 4662 02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:23,040 can't remember which one that was 4663 02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:24,479 she was like you never went to school on 4664 02:38:27,429 --> 02:38:26,080 a military base i was like no 4665 02:38:28,870 --> 02:38:27,439 no i remember don't you remember like 4666 02:38:29,510 --> 02:38:28,880 the white van will come and pick us up 4667 02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:29,520 and like 4668 02:38:32,710 --> 02:38:30,960 take me to the school and she was just 4669 02:38:33,910 --> 02:38:32,720 like no you never went to school on a 4670 02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:33,920 military base 4671 02:38:41,830 --> 02:38:40,469 man you're like triggering so much stuff 4672 02:38:43,750 --> 02:38:41,840 within my 4673 02:38:46,070 --> 02:38:43,760 i'm not gonna go to school it's not 4674 02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:46,080 you're a drunk witch 4675 02:38:50,870 --> 02:38:49,200 jesus like it's amazing now you see why 4676 02:38:52,630 --> 02:38:50,880 i have trouble like 4677 02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:52,640 coming to terms with all of this i'm 4678 02:38:58,309 --> 02:38:54,960 just like you connect the dots and then 4679 02:39:00,150 --> 02:38:58,319 okay and then so the reason i don't talk 4680 02:39:02,230 --> 02:39:00,160 to my dad not to get into like a lot of 4681 02:39:04,469 --> 02:39:02,240 family dynamics but my stepmom 4682 02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:04,479 is a horrible human being and she was 4683 02:39:09,670 --> 02:39:05,760 very 4684 02:39:11,670 --> 02:39:09,680 crazy so she when i was like a teenager 4685 02:39:13,429 --> 02:39:11,680 she would record all my phone calls like 4686 02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:13,439 i found out later my older brother found 4687 02:39:16,150 --> 02:39:15,040 that she had this like device and this 4688 02:39:18,550 --> 02:39:16,160 was back in the like 4689 02:39:20,550 --> 02:39:18,560 early 90s right so it was like a 4690 02:39:22,150 --> 02:39:20,560 landline and she had this device that 4691 02:39:23,429 --> 02:39:22,160 like it was like a recorder basically 4692 02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:23,439 that the moment you picked up the phone 4693 02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:24,640 it started recording 4694 02:39:27,830 --> 02:39:26,560 my older brother found it so we of 4695 02:39:28,309 --> 02:39:27,840 course you know the moment we were going 4696 02:39:30,389 --> 02:39:28,319 to go 4697 02:39:32,469 --> 02:39:30,399 make a phone call we turned it off and 4698 02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:32,479 then like 4699 02:39:37,030 --> 02:39:35,120 so creepy right and then she would 4700 02:39:38,870 --> 02:39:37,040 follow me around sometimes or she would 4701 02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:38,880 quiz me to see if i actually was where i 4702 02:39:42,070 --> 02:39:40,720 said i was you know i was like i went to 4703 02:39:43,750 --> 02:39:42,080 this movie and she was like okay well 4704 02:39:45,910 --> 02:39:43,760 tell me about what happened when this 4705 02:39:46,950 --> 02:39:45,920 you know thing happened she grew up in a 4706 02:39:49,429 --> 02:39:46,960 house with no pets 4707 02:39:50,309 --> 02:39:49,439 i'm well in a bat no i had to oh she 4708 02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:50,319 yeah i don't know 4709 02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:52,080 she was hurt the funny thing is her 4710 02:39:56,630 --> 02:39:54,000 parents are super super nice 4711 02:39:57,510 --> 02:39:56,640 so she was crazy and this is what's 4712 02:40:00,630 --> 02:39:57,520 really weird 4713 02:40:02,469 --> 02:40:00,640 so she while we were in saudi arabia she 4714 02:40:03,750 --> 02:40:02,479 did like i think she was doing schooling 4715 02:40:05,590 --> 02:40:03,760 and she did get like her 4716 02:40:07,030 --> 02:40:05,600 her like mba there or something like 4717 02:40:07,750 --> 02:40:07,040 that but before that she always worked 4718 02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:07,760 as like 4719 02:40:12,309 --> 02:40:10,800 um an executive assistant and then when 4720 02:40:15,750 --> 02:40:12,319 we moved to ohio 4721 02:40:18,950 --> 02:40:15,760 somehow she became a project manager at 4722 02:40:20,230 --> 02:40:18,960 uh i think it was boeing which i always 4723 02:40:22,150 --> 02:40:20,240 thought was really weird that she went 4724 02:40:23,269 --> 02:40:22,160 from an executive assistant to a project 4725 02:40:26,710 --> 02:40:23,279 manager at 4726 02:40:27,910 --> 02:40:26,720 like boeing and you know higher up right 4727 02:40:29,590 --> 02:40:27,920 i was like that's quite the leap 4728 02:40:31,269 --> 02:40:29,600 like i know she got her master's degree 4729 02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:31,279 but you go straight into a project 4730 02:40:33,429 --> 02:40:32,640 management position that's a little 4731 02:40:34,790 --> 02:40:33,439 weird 4732 02:40:36,230 --> 02:40:34,800 and so i was telling my friend all about 4733 02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:36,240 this and that's what kind of caused the 4734 02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:38,080 wedge too between my dad and i because i 4735 02:40:41,269 --> 02:40:39,840 finally was just like i cannot deal with 4736 02:40:44,309 --> 02:40:41,279 her anymore you know 4737 02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:44,319 and so my dad was like well sorry yeah 4738 02:40:48,070 --> 02:40:46,720 like this is what it is and so i was 4739 02:40:49,750 --> 02:40:48,080 talking to my friend about this the one 4740 02:40:51,190 --> 02:40:49,760 that like we had described the ship and 4741 02:40:52,309 --> 02:40:51,200 everything and she was just like well if 4742 02:40:53,830 --> 02:40:52,319 you think about it 4743 02:40:55,429 --> 02:40:53,840 there are a lot of kids like military 4744 02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:55,439 kids who have had these kind of really 4745 02:40:58,469 --> 02:40:56,160 weird like 4746 02:40:59,910 --> 02:40:58,479 either my lab or whatever experiences 4747 02:41:01,910 --> 02:40:59,920 yeah and a lot of them have 4748 02:41:03,269 --> 02:41:01,920 handlers yeah and the way you're 4749 02:41:05,750 --> 02:41:03,279 describing her 4750 02:41:07,030 --> 02:41:05,760 maybe that's what that was that's what i 4751 02:41:10,070 --> 02:41:07,040 was thinking 4752 02:41:11,830 --> 02:41:10,080 so 4753 02:41:14,230 --> 02:41:11,840 crazy this is why i don't talk about it 4754 02:41:16,550 --> 02:41:14,240 too often because it's like 4755 02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:16,560 so crazy but you're all like those 4756 02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:17,840 together like if you look at each 4757 02:41:21,030 --> 02:41:19,840 individual piece it's like eh okay not 4758 02:41:21,830 --> 02:41:21,040 so much but then when you look at the 4759 02:41:25,190 --> 02:41:21,840 big picture 4760 02:41:26,870 --> 02:41:25,200 it's like what the yeah yeah 4761 02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:26,880 and you're not and you're not the only 4762 02:41:33,510 --> 02:41:30,640 one i just blew my mind i mean there's 4763 02:41:35,110 --> 02:41:33,520 i just blew my mind dude i don't like i 4764 02:41:38,950 --> 02:41:35,120 i'm broke i'm speechless 4765 02:41:43,030 --> 02:41:38,960 for the first time in my life 4766 02:41:43,590 --> 02:41:43,040 yes so hold on i'm putting the pieces 4767 02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:43,600 together 4768 02:41:49,190 --> 02:41:46,880 in my head your dad right top 4769 02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:49,200 dude okay yeah i'm just i'm just 4770 02:41:52,950 --> 02:41:51,520 picturing he's he's a handsome guy okay 4771 02:41:59,510 --> 02:41:52,960 he's a handsome devil yeah sure of 4772 02:42:02,630 --> 02:42:01,030 [Laughter] 4773 02:42:03,360 --> 02:42:02,640 actually i do look a lot more like my 4774 02:42:04,790 --> 02:42:03,370 dad than my mom 4775 02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:04,800 [Laughter] 4776 02:42:09,349 --> 02:42:07,120 which is kind of funny so he's working 4777 02:42:11,349 --> 02:42:09,359 in this capacity what if like 4778 02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:11,359 back in the day you know maybe there was 4779 02:42:14,950 --> 02:42:12,960 a certain point in your childhood that 4780 02:42:16,550 --> 02:42:14,960 he got this job and he was like you know 4781 02:42:18,150 --> 02:42:16,560 what it's higher pay whatever let's do 4782 02:42:21,830 --> 02:42:18,160 it and then it opens up in 4783 02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:21,840 this whole world that like 4784 02:42:26,710 --> 02:42:25,120 he had no idea and now he's is he if he 4785 02:42:28,309 --> 02:42:26,720 says anything about it blah blah 4786 02:42:30,070 --> 02:42:28,319 and that forces it i'm just like going 4787 02:42:31,910 --> 02:42:30,080 down this rabbit hole like he probably 4788 02:42:33,910 --> 02:42:31,920 also had to bring you with him 4789 02:42:35,429 --> 02:42:33,920 like maybe to like keep you safe in a 4790 02:42:38,389 --> 02:42:35,439 way he knew 4791 02:42:40,150 --> 02:42:38,399 that they were testing out the military 4792 02:42:41,190 --> 02:42:40,160 kids because that's one of the theories 4793 02:42:42,389 --> 02:42:41,200 you know 4794 02:42:44,550 --> 02:42:42,399 military kids to see what their 4795 02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:44,560 abilities are and i like i've said 4796 02:42:47,830 --> 02:42:45,520 before i've always 4797 02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:47,840 had like spirits around me so i've 4798 02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:48,800 always kind of 4799 02:42:53,110 --> 02:42:51,840 had that like auditory connection and 4800 02:42:56,790 --> 02:42:53,120 like 4801 02:43:00,070 --> 02:42:56,800 the word i'm looking for maybe 4802 02:43:03,590 --> 02:43:00,080 so we we talk about this a lot that 4803 02:43:05,910 --> 02:43:03,600 that these i i do feel like there's a 4804 02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:05,920 bloodline i think we we all kind of 4805 02:43:09,269 --> 02:43:07,680 understand that there is 4806 02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:09,279 there are certain people that have these 4807 02:43:14,150 --> 02:43:11,279 abilities that can maybe call it an 4808 02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:14,160 uh intuitive nature or can kind of feel 4809 02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:15,120 energies 4810 02:43:18,790 --> 02:43:17,040 yeah and i think that's the bloodline no 4811 02:43:20,469 --> 02:43:18,800 one's talking about like everybody wants 4812 02:43:20,950 --> 02:43:20,479 to talk about like the elites and stuff 4813 02:43:22,469 --> 02:43:20,960 but like 4814 02:43:24,150 --> 02:43:22,479 right yeah but the reality is that the 4815 02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:24,160 elites ever it's 4816 02:43:28,950 --> 02:43:26,560 it's backwards it's like this you know 4817 02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:28,960 hidden in plain sight kind of thing like 4818 02:43:32,230 --> 02:43:31,600 the most important part people humans on 4819 02:43:34,870 --> 02:43:32,240 the planet 4820 02:43:35,590 --> 02:43:34,880 are these these these people that have a 4821 02:43:37,670 --> 02:43:35,600 little bit 4822 02:43:39,349 --> 02:43:37,680 extra so like maybe there's a reason why 4823 02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:39,359 your dad was chosen for that job is 4824 02:43:41,750 --> 02:43:40,960 because this runs in your family and 4825 02:43:43,190 --> 02:43:41,760 they're like hey 4826 02:43:45,269 --> 02:43:43,200 cool we got a blood test you're good 4827 02:43:46,389 --> 02:43:45,279 let's go bring it bring the fan bring 4828 02:43:48,070 --> 02:43:46,399 the family right now okay 4829 02:43:49,510 --> 02:43:48,080 okay so the wife's not cool with it okay 4830 02:43:52,230 --> 02:43:49,520 let's let's replace you know 4831 02:43:53,030 --> 02:43:52,240 i don't mean to be like no insensitive 4832 02:43:57,110 --> 02:43:53,040 about that 4833 02:43:59,670 --> 02:43:57,120 but yeah but like but like 4834 02:44:01,269 --> 02:43:59,680 the handler thing and like oh man it's 4835 02:44:02,630 --> 02:44:01,279 crazy okay so i can blow your mind even 4836 02:44:04,550 --> 02:44:02,640 more you just made me think of something 4837 02:44:06,550 --> 02:44:04,560 and i never made this connection 4838 02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:06,560 so we're talking about family lines damn 4839 02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:07,760 it we're going to have 4840 02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:09,760 like dave just joined us what's up dave 4841 02:44:14,309 --> 02:44:11,200 from spaced out radio 4842 02:44:16,309 --> 02:44:14,319 oh dave yay hi dave so 4843 02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:16,319 you talk about like bloodlines and i 4844 02:44:21,030 --> 02:44:18,000 never made this connection until 4845 02:44:24,710 --> 02:44:21,040 you just said this but our family 4846 02:44:27,269 --> 02:44:24,720 does have um we did have a lot of like 4847 02:44:29,349 --> 02:44:27,279 played a big role in the development of 4848 02:44:30,550 --> 02:44:29,359 america like i'm related to george ross 4849 02:44:31,429 --> 02:44:30,560 who signed the declaration of 4850 02:44:33,349 --> 02:44:31,439 independence 4851 02:44:35,429 --> 02:44:33,359 who's also related to betsy ross who 4852 02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:35,439 obviously we know like 4853 02:44:44,710 --> 02:44:43,750 yeah so yeah he likes a bunch of uh wing 4854 02:44:47,349 --> 02:44:44,720 stops 4855 02:44:49,990 --> 02:44:47,359 he does i [\h__\h] around about a wing 4856 02:44:56,150 --> 02:44:53,670 rick ross so also like that's 4857 02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:56,160 that's amazing so you're you're related 4858 02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:57,920 to people that sign the declaration of 4859 02:45:00,469 --> 02:44:58,800 independence 4860 02:45:01,990 --> 02:45:00,479 yeah the one better be careful nicholas 4861 02:45:02,630 --> 02:45:02,000 cage is going to show up at your house 4862 02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:02,640 tonight 4863 02:45:08,870 --> 02:45:05,680 i love nicholas cage please come he's a 4864 02:45:11,590 --> 02:45:08,880 crazy guy i love him 4865 02:45:13,750 --> 02:45:11,600 dude dude lynn this is blowing yeah like 4866 02:45:14,550 --> 02:45:13,760 he keeps getting deeper and deeper i 4867 02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:14,560 know 4868 02:45:19,429 --> 02:45:16,960 cause like like oh man i love this i'm 4869 02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:19,439 so glad you joined us tonight 4870 02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:20,800 i know it's like i'm you're you're 4871 02:45:23,349 --> 02:45:22,319 getting all you're getting the scoop i 4872 02:45:26,389 --> 02:45:23,359 haven't ever like told 4873 02:45:27,510 --> 02:45:26,399 all of this yeah like let me show you i 4874 02:45:29,030 --> 02:45:27,520 only touched on it 4875 02:45:30,790 --> 02:45:29,040 i mean yeah i feel like we're just 4876 02:45:32,630 --> 02:45:30,800 scratching the itty bitty 4877 02:45:34,230 --> 02:45:32,640 surface it's like i know you're helping 4878 02:45:35,110 --> 02:45:34,240 me make connections too that i didn't 4879 02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:35,120 even think of 4880 02:45:38,630 --> 02:45:37,279 there we go we're just we're just you 4881 02:45:41,990 --> 02:45:38,640 know 4882 02:45:43,670 --> 02:45:42,000 yeah so i mean is there any 4883 02:45:45,269 --> 02:45:43,680 was there anything involving that that 4884 02:45:47,110 --> 02:45:45,279 bloodline that this did that 4885 02:45:48,309 --> 02:45:47,120 hit on any anything else other than like 4886 02:45:51,349 --> 02:45:48,319 the the 4887 02:45:54,469 --> 02:45:51,359 obviously significant relatives like 4888 02:45:56,469 --> 02:45:54,479 yeah like has anybody did you encounter 4889 02:45:57,830 --> 02:45:56,479 any any language with that with your 4890 02:45:59,670 --> 02:45:57,840 regressions or 4891 02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:59,680 was that ever like a visual given to you 4892 02:46:03,830 --> 02:46:01,040 because i just find that so 4893 02:46:05,030 --> 02:46:03,840 interesting it wasn't no no like there 4894 02:46:08,230 --> 02:46:05,040 wasn't really 4895 02:46:10,150 --> 02:46:08,240 the only like the only connection that i 4896 02:46:11,990 --> 02:46:10,160 made with that plus the memory 4897 02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:12,000 which wasn't part of the regression it 4898 02:46:13,990 --> 02:46:13,680 was just an actual memory of going to 4899 02:46:18,150 --> 02:46:14,000 the 4900 02:46:19,429 --> 02:46:18,160 was like it was all military that was 4901 02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:19,439 the whole connection 4902 02:46:23,349 --> 02:46:21,120 that i like that was the only connection 4903 02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:23,359 that i had made was that it must have 4904 02:46:26,309 --> 02:46:24,080 something to do 4905 02:46:27,830 --> 02:46:26,319 with like my dad being in the military 4906 02:46:30,150 --> 02:46:27,840 and like i come from a very 4907 02:46:30,950 --> 02:46:30,160 strong military family like my dad was a 4908 02:46:33,510 --> 02:46:30,960 colonel 4909 02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:33,520 i had two brothers and special forces my 4910 02:46:37,110 --> 02:46:35,279 grandfather was in the navy my uncle was 4911 02:46:38,790 --> 02:46:37,120 in the navy my mom was in the air force 4912 02:46:40,469 --> 02:46:38,800 like you know like it just keeps going 4913 02:46:41,510 --> 02:46:40,479 back it was just like a very military 4914 02:46:43,670 --> 02:46:41,520 family 4915 02:46:44,790 --> 02:46:43,680 so that was the only connection that i 4916 02:46:48,070 --> 02:46:44,800 really had thought about 4917 02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:48,080 but i'm i'm thinking of so many ideas 4918 02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:49,840 right now 4919 02:46:53,110 --> 02:46:52,319 now i totally want this regression 4920 02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:53,120 because like my 4921 02:46:57,030 --> 02:46:56,240 family is all military family too all 4922 02:46:59,910 --> 02:46:57,040 military 4923 02:47:00,550 --> 02:46:59,920 and my grandfather and my dad both had 4924 02:47:04,309 --> 02:47:00,560 like this 4925 02:47:06,790 --> 02:47:04,319 crazy experience like really 4926 02:47:08,070 --> 02:47:06,800 yeah yeah and for some reason where for 4927 02:47:11,030 --> 02:47:08,080 whatever reason i'm 4928 02:47:13,030 --> 02:47:11,040 into aliens now like yeah it's just so 4929 02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:13,040 like the sequence of events is so crazy 4930 02:47:15,670 --> 02:47:13,600 like 4931 02:47:16,870 --> 02:47:15,680 i gotta have this regression i know it's 4932 02:47:18,550 --> 02:47:16,880 like once you like 4933 02:47:19,990 --> 02:47:18,560 it's it's tough like i'll warn you too 4934 02:47:21,830 --> 02:47:20,000 because like once you have it like now 4935 02:47:23,830 --> 02:47:21,840 i'm like i want to know more you know 4936 02:47:25,750 --> 02:47:23,840 but i can't remember anything else 4937 02:47:27,750 --> 02:47:25,760 yeah which is crazy like i did have a 4938 02:47:29,510 --> 02:47:27,760 second regression done but then like 4939 02:47:31,190 --> 02:47:29,520 you always question if with the second 4940 02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:31,200 one you know is it influenced by the 4941 02:47:33,670 --> 02:47:31,920 first one 4942 02:47:35,030 --> 02:47:33,680 so it's like always hard to trust any 4943 02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:35,040 information that comes from the second 4944 02:47:38,389 --> 02:47:35,680 one like 4945 02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:38,399 i was actually um just to name drop i 4946 02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:40,080 was talking to ben hansen about this 4947 02:47:42,950 --> 02:47:41,680 like a couple years back because i was 4948 02:47:43,670 --> 02:47:42,960 telling him about this i was like then 4949 02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:43,680 i'm like like 4950 02:47:46,469 --> 02:47:45,279 what the hell you know and so i was 4951 02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:46,479 telling he was like okay well tell me 4952 02:47:47,990 --> 02:47:47,760 what happened in the first one and so i 4953 02:47:51,110 --> 02:47:48,000 told 4954 02:47:52,550 --> 02:47:51,120 and then i had a second one but i don't 4955 02:47:54,150 --> 02:47:52,560 know that one was a little more weird 4956 02:47:55,429 --> 02:47:54,160 and he was the one that was like 4957 02:47:57,830 --> 02:47:55,439 telling me he was like well you know 4958 02:47:59,910 --> 02:47:57,840 remember like that's you can't really 4959 02:48:02,309 --> 02:47:59,920 trust the second one the first one 4960 02:48:03,670 --> 02:48:02,319 is really the one that like has the most 4961 02:48:05,190 --> 02:48:03,680 impact that has the most 4962 02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:05,200 truth to it because it hasn't been 4963 02:48:10,150 --> 02:48:06,720 influenced by anything else 4964 02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:10,160 right yeah right interesting 4965 02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:14,080 this is fun i mean so like my 4966 02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:16,880 mom's side of the family all like uh not 4967 02:48:22,469 --> 02:48:19,200 military but uh police officer 4968 02:48:23,110 --> 02:48:22,479 uh highway patrolmen i mean it goes back 4969 02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:23,120 and 4970 02:48:28,790 --> 02:48:26,160 basically my mom's side is all like yeah 4971 02:48:29,349 --> 02:48:28,800 uh officials and then my dad's side is 4972 02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:29,359 is more 4973 02:48:32,389 --> 02:48:31,600 business man like and then farmer if you 4974 02:48:35,349 --> 02:48:32,399 go even 4975 02:48:36,389 --> 02:48:35,359 further so i don't know my mom's side of 4976 02:48:38,790 --> 02:48:36,399 the family it's it's 4977 02:48:39,429 --> 02:48:38,800 it's that profession but also like her 4978 02:48:41,429 --> 02:48:39,439 mother is 4979 02:48:42,870 --> 02:48:41,439 is kind of like she's got some weirdness 4980 02:48:44,710 --> 02:48:42,880 to her like people would come to her to 4981 02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:44,720 like remove warts and stuff and like she 4982 02:48:47,110 --> 02:48:45,439 would like pull 4983 02:48:48,710 --> 02:48:47,120 her hand like warts and like make them 4984 02:48:51,670 --> 02:48:48,720 go away really wow 4985 02:48:53,349 --> 02:48:51,680 my mom's mom dude like she i don't know 4986 02:48:54,070 --> 02:48:53,359 what it is but she's got some energy to 4987 02:48:57,830 --> 02:48:54,080 her so i 4988 02:49:00,070 --> 02:48:57,840 i my grandmother she would rub vicks on 4989 02:49:04,389 --> 02:49:00,080 me it made me feel good 4990 02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:05,670 would you cry i don't know i don't know 4991 02:49:12,630 --> 02:49:11,190 was it cracked or just whole oh no they 4992 02:49:12,950 --> 02:49:12,640 so there was this thing it was called oh 4993 02:49:14,389 --> 02:49:12,960 ho 4994 02:49:17,429 --> 02:49:14,399 that you would get and it was like the 4995 02:49:19,510 --> 02:49:17,439 you know the devil's out there right 4996 02:49:20,469 --> 02:49:19,520 dude that was so crazy because i would 4997 02:49:22,230 --> 02:49:20,479 like get sick 4998 02:49:23,670 --> 02:49:22,240 and my grandmother would come in and she 4999 02:49:26,710 --> 02:49:23,680 would she'd come in with the egg and 5000 02:49:29,190 --> 02:49:26,720 she'd like come in with the baby 5001 02:49:30,790 --> 02:49:29,200 remove the negative energy it was nuts 5002 02:49:32,389 --> 02:49:30,800 because you would crack you would crack 5003 02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:32,399 the egg and put it in this little cup 5004 02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:34,240 and put it under my bed 5005 02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:36,479 and like put this little cross on top of 5006 02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:37,920 it and then 5007 02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:40,240 you would wake up and the egg would be 5008 02:49:42,790 --> 02:49:42,479 like goddamn boiled with like a rip yeah 5009 02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:42,800 like 5010 02:49:53,349 --> 02:49:50,560 on it 5011 02:49:54,469 --> 02:49:53,359 i was like i was like what is happening 5012 02:49:57,590 --> 02:49:54,479 so oh 5013 02:49:59,670 --> 02:49:57,600 jesus i i i have i i think we're we're 5014 02:50:02,389 --> 02:49:59,680 man i think we're like getting to this 5015 02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:02,399 this president i just want to like 5016 02:50:05,590 --> 02:50:04,080 it's all like leading up to this this 5017 02:50:07,030 --> 02:50:05,600 like one idea right like we talked about 5018 02:50:07,510 --> 02:50:07,040 the beginning of our conversation is 5019 02:50:10,550 --> 02:50:07,520 that like 5020 02:50:14,630 --> 02:50:10,560 the paranormal and this this the e.t 5021 02:50:16,790 --> 02:50:14,640 uh it seems to be one kind of connected 5022 02:50:18,469 --> 02:50:16,800 paranormal thing that we just yeah i 5023 02:50:19,670 --> 02:50:18,479 mean let's just say we just something we 5024 02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:19,680 can't explain like 5025 02:50:22,950 --> 02:50:21,520 we try to uh we try to talk about the 5026 02:50:24,469 --> 02:50:22,960 word experiencer like what is an 5027 02:50:26,070 --> 02:50:24,479 experiencer 5028 02:50:27,510 --> 02:50:26,080 to you guys i mean like to me it's just 5029 02:50:29,429 --> 02:50:27,520 anybody who's seen or 5030 02:50:30,630 --> 02:50:29,439 or experienced something that they can't 5031 02:50:34,389 --> 02:50:30,640 explain right right 5032 02:50:36,469 --> 02:50:34,399 right yeah i think the more that we 5033 02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:36,479 uh get involved with you know our 5034 02:50:39,910 --> 02:50:38,160 government the us government coming out 5035 02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:39,920 with this information on 5036 02:50:44,309 --> 02:50:42,880 uh i it sounded like disinformation but 5037 02:50:46,389 --> 02:50:44,319 it might be disenfranchising 5038 02:50:48,389 --> 02:50:46,399 anyway might not be wrong might not be 5039 02:50:50,710 --> 02:50:48,399 wrong on the on the 25th 5040 02:50:52,309 --> 02:50:50,720 hopefully fingers crossed but it's like 5041 02:50:54,950 --> 02:50:52,319 man we've been trying for so 5042 02:50:56,870 --> 02:50:54,960 long like 70 years to get just this 5043 02:50:59,349 --> 02:50:56,880 thing that we already know 5044 02:51:01,750 --> 02:50:59,359 is a thing like why is it taking so long 5045 02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:01,760 we just need somebody else to say it 5046 02:51:05,190 --> 02:51:04,479 yeah yes validation will you just say it 5047 02:51:07,269 --> 02:51:05,200 please 5048 02:51:09,510 --> 02:51:07,279 and it's still i feel like for the 5049 02:51:10,950 --> 02:51:09,520 majority of people that are into this 5050 02:51:14,070 --> 02:51:10,960 kind of stuff it's gonna be 5051 02:51:14,550 --> 02:51:14,080 barely tickle tickle that little little 5052 02:51:17,510 --> 02:51:14,560 action 5053 02:51:19,269 --> 02:51:17,520 it's gonna be anything yeah so i'm like 5054 02:51:19,750 --> 02:51:19,279 debbie downer when it comes to that i'm 5055 02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:19,760 just like 5056 02:51:24,950 --> 02:51:23,120 it's not going to be anything so we i 5057 02:51:25,510 --> 02:51:24,960 think we will feel that way but i think 5058 02:51:28,630 --> 02:51:25,520 the mass 5059 02:51:32,150 --> 02:51:28,640 public is going to feel like 5060 02:51:34,710 --> 02:51:32,160 well a shift of crazy consciousness 5061 02:51:36,389 --> 02:51:34,720 all yeah that's that is true they do 5062 02:51:37,990 --> 02:51:36,399 they definitely do take the subject a 5063 02:51:40,950 --> 02:51:38,000 lot more seriously and 5064 02:51:42,309 --> 02:51:40,960 if anything like if it gets the general 5065 02:51:44,710 --> 02:51:42,319 public more interested 5066 02:51:46,150 --> 02:51:44,720 into in it and like learning more about 5067 02:51:49,190 --> 02:51:46,160 it that's a good thing 5068 02:51:49,590 --> 02:51:49,200 and if if aliens isn't the answer and 5069 02:51:52,550 --> 02:51:49,600 that's 5070 02:51:53,670 --> 02:51:52,560 what it is imagine what it actually is 5071 02:51:57,590 --> 02:51:53,680 that they're not telling us 5072 02:51:59,429 --> 02:51:57,600 like right what is it that we don't know 5073 02:52:01,830 --> 02:51:59,439 and we're not actually like when they 5074 02:52:03,590 --> 02:52:01,840 say you're like you're not ready 5075 02:52:05,269 --> 02:52:03,600 okay cool well they're they're basically 5076 02:52:06,870 --> 02:52:05,279 saying aliens exist so if that's not the 5077 02:52:07,590 --> 02:52:06,880 thing we're not ready for then what are 5078 02:52:12,230 --> 02:52:07,600 we not 5079 02:52:16,550 --> 02:52:14,630 well i like how they say it or you know 5080 02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:16,560 like the pre-report that's kind of come 5081 02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:16,960 out 5082 02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:18,160 that was reported by i think it was the 5083 02:52:22,830 --> 02:52:20,479 new york times or something um 5084 02:52:23,990 --> 02:52:22,840 well they're like it's not 5085 02:52:26,070 --> 02:52:24,000 extraterrestrial 5086 02:52:27,910 --> 02:52:26,080 but it's also not u.s so i'm kind of 5087 02:52:28,710 --> 02:52:27,920 like how can they rule that out then 5088 02:52:30,790 --> 02:52:28,720 what do they know 5089 02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:30,800 that they're not telling us if it's not 5090 02:52:33,990 --> 02:52:32,399 extraterrestrial like that's a very 5091 02:52:35,590 --> 02:52:34,000 definitive statement 5092 02:52:37,190 --> 02:52:35,600 how can they make that statement if they 5093 02:52:38,670 --> 02:52:37,200 don't know exactly what it is 5094 02:52:40,870 --> 02:52:38,680 yeah that's a good point it's 5095 02:52:42,950 --> 02:52:40,880 inter-dimensional or 5096 02:52:44,150 --> 02:52:42,960 or i think joe and i have a pretty good 5097 02:52:46,309 --> 02:52:44,160 idea what it might be 5098 02:52:47,990 --> 02:52:46,319 tell me i don't think people are ready 5099 02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:48,000 for this i'm ready 5100 02:52:51,349 --> 02:52:50,399 we have some information oh are we about 5101 02:52:53,429 --> 02:52:51,359 to can we drop this 5102 02:52:54,790 --> 02:52:53,439 i think we can dude go for it please i 5103 02:52:56,469 --> 02:52:54,800 think we can after everything i just 5104 02:52:59,750 --> 02:52:56,479 told you come on 5105 02:53:02,790 --> 02:52:59,760 sea monkeys yes it 5106 02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:02,800 might be sea monkeys okay you don't give 5107 02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:04,560 them enough credit 5108 02:53:08,309 --> 02:53:07,600 might have built that up way too much 5109 02:53:11,349 --> 02:53:08,319 i'm sorry 5110 02:53:12,070 --> 02:53:11,359 no i realized everybody's all 5111 02:53:15,429 --> 02:53:12,080 disappointed 5112 02:53:17,510 --> 02:53:15,439 everybody's like oh sh i hate these guys 5113 02:53:19,429 --> 02:53:17,520 hey they have their own little kingdom 5114 02:53:22,950 --> 02:53:19,439 you know like no 5115 02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:22,960 hierarchy sand castle like kingdom yeah 5116 02:53:28,309 --> 02:53:26,160 they have craft you get it yeah 5117 02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:28,319 yeah i'm right there with you guys maybe 5118 02:53:30,150 --> 02:53:29,680 maybe there's some truth to it maybe 5119 02:53:31,990 --> 02:53:30,160 maybe 5120 02:53:33,429 --> 02:53:32,000 you know i mean it started out as a joke 5121 02:53:35,269 --> 02:53:33,439 we've been joking about the sea monkey 5122 02:53:38,870 --> 02:53:35,279 thing for a while but two years 5123 02:53:41,190 --> 02:53:38,880 two like years back and listen 5124 02:53:42,550 --> 02:53:41,200 things we're like amazing we've been 5125 02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:42,560 talking about this for two years but 5126 02:53:44,710 --> 02:53:44,080 like the most ridiculous thing we can 5127 02:53:47,429 --> 02:53:44,720 come up with 5128 02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:47,439 is also might make the most sense i mean 5129 02:53:50,630 --> 02:53:48,800 we're talking about 5130 02:53:52,150 --> 02:53:50,640 what is what is our relationship to sea 5131 02:53:52,550 --> 02:53:52,160 monkeys it's like oh it's just a fun 5132 02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:52,560 thing 5133 02:53:57,830 --> 02:53:56,319 made money off of it and like 5134 02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:57,840 some people were observing them and then 5135 02:54:01,269 --> 02:53:59,760 they they cultivated them and 5136 02:54:02,630 --> 02:54:01,279 made it made a lot of them and now what 5137 02:54:03,349 --> 02:54:02,640 do we do with all these little brine 5138 02:54:05,269 --> 02:54:03,359 shrimp right 5139 02:54:06,870 --> 02:54:05,279 right could be that maybe they did 5140 02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:06,880 genetic mutations and then the sea 5141 02:54:09,670 --> 02:54:08,399 monkeys became a lot more intelligent 5142 02:54:12,790 --> 02:54:09,680 than they ever thought 5143 02:54:14,950 --> 02:54:12,800 dude i don't know man lynn's on the sea 5144 02:54:18,150 --> 02:54:14,960 monkey train and i love it 5145 02:54:20,790 --> 02:54:18,160 seriously dude but you know what 5146 02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:20,800 also like they said definitively that 5147 02:54:24,670 --> 02:54:22,720 it's not extraterrestrials right 5148 02:54:27,510 --> 02:54:24,680 but they didn't say anything about 5149 02:54:28,710 --> 02:54:27,520 ultra-terrestrials or inter-dimensionals 5150 02:54:30,790 --> 02:54:28,720 you know because the government you 5151 02:54:32,630 --> 02:54:30,800 gotta look at like the specific 5152 02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:32,640 words that they use i've noticed you 5153 02:54:37,190 --> 02:54:34,560 know you have to like they say things 5154 02:54:38,870 --> 02:54:37,200 very definitively and specifically 5155 02:54:40,710 --> 02:54:38,880 and so then you got to read between the 5156 02:54:43,110 --> 02:54:40,720 lines a little bit so 5157 02:54:44,950 --> 02:54:43,120 yeah okay can i make one more c monkey 5158 02:54:48,230 --> 02:54:44,960 reference yes please 5159 02:54:51,110 --> 02:54:48,240 so like so like two i absolutely 5160 02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:51,120 serious the the analogy to the sea 5161 02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:52,080 monkeys right like 5162 02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:54,880 to them a a terrestrial will be anything 5163 02:54:59,110 --> 02:54:56,319 inside the fishbowl 5164 02:55:02,630 --> 02:54:59,120 yes so an ultra-terrestrial would be 5165 02:55:04,389 --> 02:55:02,640 anything outside of that fishbowl so 5166 02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:04,399 i don't know think about it think about 5167 02:55:07,830 --> 02:55:05,920 it i don't know we would be the ultra 5168 02:55:10,870 --> 02:55:07,840 terrestrial we would be the whole room 5169 02:55:11,429 --> 02:55:10,880 yeah so i don't know i'm sticking with 5170 02:55:15,190 --> 02:55:11,439 it 5171 02:55:17,110 --> 02:55:15,200 yeah yeah dude does that make them like 5172 02:55:20,550 --> 02:55:17,120 little inner earth beings 5173 02:55:21,910 --> 02:55:20,560 yeah yeah oh my god i have like i feel 5174 02:55:22,790 --> 02:55:21,920 like 10 different changes i want to go 5175 02:55:26,389 --> 02:55:22,800 off on but 5176 02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:28,389 lynn thank you so much for hanging out 5177 02:55:31,349 --> 02:55:30,479 with us tonight this has been incredible 5178 02:55:34,550 --> 02:55:31,359 man 5179 02:55:35,670 --> 02:55:34,560 yes guys it's been totally awesome wow 5180 02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:35,680 it's always fun hanging out with you 5181 02:55:38,230 --> 02:55:36,160 guys 5182 02:55:39,670 --> 02:55:38,240 yeah sorry it was such short notice i 5183 02:55:41,910 --> 02:55:39,680 know we've been talking and 5184 02:55:43,990 --> 02:55:41,920 i was getting back from sedona and then 5185 02:55:46,710 --> 02:55:44,000 yeah we were just exhausted boys 5186 02:55:48,469 --> 02:55:46,720 so yeah yeah it's been nuts dude we're 5187 02:55:49,429 --> 02:55:48,479 excited to come hang out with y'all and 5188 02:55:51,030 --> 02:55:49,439 you'll show them 5189 02:55:52,469 --> 02:55:51,040 oh yeah whenever we can get that like 5190 02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:52,479 rescheduled and get it 5191 02:55:55,610 --> 02:55:55,120 getting going i mean it's gonna be 5192 02:56:08,700 --> 02:55:55,620 awesome 5193 02:56:13,030 --> 02:56:09,990 [Music] 5194 02:56:14,389 --> 02:56:13,040 oh my god yeah i love it 5195 02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:14,399 that's happening that's happening we can 5196 02:56:33,349 --> 02:56:22,070 dude yes uh jammy 5197 02:56:38,150 --> 02:56:35,429 pajamas i don't know we'll come up with 5198 02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:38,160 something paranormal pajama spirits 5199 02:56:43,030 --> 02:56:41,439 paranormal pajama spirits i love that 5200 02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:43,040 let's just keep rearranging the words 5201 02:56:47,510 --> 02:56:43,840 until it sounds 5202 02:56:47,910 --> 02:56:47,520 right when we've been drinking it'll 5203 02:56:52,830 --> 02:56:47,920 sound 5204 02:56:55,910 --> 02:56:52,840 great geniuses 5205 02:56:58,070 --> 02:56:55,920 perfect oh my gosh 5206 02:56:59,429 --> 02:56:58,080 yeah again thank you lynn for coming on 5207 02:57:02,150 --> 02:56:59,439 dude this has been 5208 02:57:03,269 --> 02:57:02,160 absolutely awesome uh you'll definitely 5209 02:57:04,870 --> 02:57:03,279 be back on again 5210 02:57:06,950 --> 02:57:04,880 we got so much more to talk about you 5211 02:57:08,710 --> 02:57:06,960 know any time 5212 02:57:10,150 --> 02:57:08,720 usually usually when we start wearing 5213 02:57:11,590 --> 02:57:10,160 out sea monkeys come out 5214 02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:11,600 and that's how we know that the end of 5215 02:57:15,670 --> 02:57:13,920 the show is is coming up because 5216 02:57:17,990 --> 02:57:15,680 then we have like 20 minutes of sea 5217 02:57:19,269 --> 02:57:18,000 monkey talk 5218 02:57:24,230 --> 02:57:19,279 the more you listen the more you'll 5219 02:57:27,590 --> 02:57:26,870 so lynn tell us about your new show with 5220 02:57:30,389 --> 02:57:27,600 sor 5221 02:57:31,510 --> 02:57:30,399 and your paranormal paranormal spirits 5222 02:57:33,590 --> 02:57:31,520 youtube channel tell 5223 02:57:35,910 --> 02:57:33,600 everybody that's still here hanging out 5224 02:57:37,429 --> 02:57:35,920 okay yes so you can find us on pair 5225 02:57:39,429 --> 02:57:37,439 it's difficult to find us sometimes 5226 02:57:41,670 --> 02:57:39,439 unless you do like a channel 5227 02:57:43,349 --> 02:57:41,680 filter you know on the search because it 5228 02:57:44,710 --> 02:57:43,359 has the word paranormal so everything 5229 02:57:46,630 --> 02:57:44,720 paranormal comes up 5230 02:57:48,230 --> 02:57:46,640 so if you search paranormal spirits and 5231 02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:48,240 do like a channel filter it'll come up 5232 02:57:51,269 --> 02:57:49,600 right away it looks like a little ghosty 5233 02:57:53,190 --> 02:57:51,279 coming out of a wine glass 5234 02:57:55,510 --> 02:57:53,200 um and so yeah caitlyn and i it's kind 5235 02:57:58,630 --> 02:57:55,520 of like boozy paranormal stories we 5236 02:57:59,990 --> 02:57:58,640 we're drinking and antics 5237 02:58:01,910 --> 02:58:00,000 you know i don't know how else to 5238 02:58:04,230 --> 02:58:01,920 describe it it's ridiculous 5239 02:58:06,309 --> 02:58:04,240 it's ridiculousness and then on every 5240 02:58:08,230 --> 02:58:06,319 saturday i'm on space out radio i do 5241 02:58:10,070 --> 02:58:08,240 spaced out saturdays and 5242 02:58:12,710 --> 02:58:10,080 we talk about all kinds of things from 5243 02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:12,720 witchy things to paranormal to ufo 5244 02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:15,520 it's it's all up for grabs so it's fun 5245 02:58:19,269 --> 02:58:16,240 time 5246 02:58:22,469 --> 02:58:19,279 heck yeah love it love it love it 5247 02:58:24,389 --> 02:58:22,479 uh thank you again lin you're badass 5248 02:58:26,550 --> 02:58:24,399 uh let's do this again thanks guys we'll 5249 02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:26,560 see you for the pajama party just let us 5250 02:58:29,429 --> 02:58:27,439 know um 5251 02:58:30,710 --> 02:58:29,439 yeah yeah when when when we could get 5252 02:58:32,710 --> 02:58:30,720 together that would be awesome 5253 02:58:34,469 --> 02:58:32,720 yeah for sure okay well thanks for 5254 02:58:36,630 --> 02:58:34,479 having me on guys it was a blast 5255 02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:36,640 yes it was yeah yeah all right lynn 5256 02:58:40,950 --> 02:58:37,760 we'll talk to you later 5257 02:58:43,990 --> 02:58:40,960 all right sounds good bye bye guys 5258 02:58:47,590 --> 02:58:44,000 that was great yeah that was 5259 02:58:49,750 --> 02:58:47,600 freaking awesome i like i love lynn 5260 02:58:51,910 --> 02:58:49,760 she's great job she was so much fun i 5261 02:58:55,510 --> 02:58:51,920 like her too man 5262 02:58:57,750 --> 02:58:55,520 so i i i uh i knew we knew lin 5263 02:58:59,510 --> 02:58:57,760 from being on on sor spaced out radio 5264 02:59:01,190 --> 02:58:59,520 check it out with dave scott 5265 02:59:03,830 --> 02:59:01,200 and you know we i think the first time 5266 02:59:05,670 --> 02:59:03,840 we talked to her was on that round table 5267 02:59:07,750 --> 02:59:05,680 and it's just it's awesome to get to 5268 02:59:08,469 --> 02:59:07,760 know her her personal experience you 5269 02:59:10,630 --> 02:59:08,479 know i i 5270 02:59:12,790 --> 02:59:10,640 haven't really heard that yet yeah yeah 5271 02:59:13,990 --> 02:59:12,800 dude and honestly you guys their show is 5272 02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:14,000 really funny so y'all y'all 5273 02:59:17,349 --> 02:59:15,600 need to check that out yeah it's so 5274 02:59:20,630 --> 02:59:17,359 funny yeah it's pretty good 5275 02:59:22,550 --> 02:59:20,640 yeah it's pretty good man well hey 5276 02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:22,560 everybody don't forget to go and check 5277 02:59:28,150 --> 02:59:24,800 out ufo girls 5278 02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:28,160 podcast oh you're doing it 5279 02:59:32,389 --> 02:59:31,120 i'm pointing at the sticker oh right 5280 02:59:36,790 --> 02:59:32,399 there 5281 02:59:41,269 --> 02:59:39,429 that's as close as it'll get you you got 5282 02:59:41,990 --> 02:59:41,279 to move your hand out because it won't 5283 02:59:45,269 --> 02:59:42,000 focus 5284 02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:45,279 there we go dude we're branding geniuses 5285 02:59:50,630 --> 02:59:47,439 ufo garage podcasts we're so good 5286 02:59:53,640 --> 02:59:52,710 wall art yeah we're so good at 5287 02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:53,650 self-promotion dude 5288 02:59:58,469 --> 02:59:55,200 [Laughter] 5289 03:00:03,670 --> 03:00:01,910 oh man i love it man that was another 5290 03:00:05,750 --> 03:00:03,680 successful thirsty thursday 5291 03:00:07,349 --> 03:00:05,760 uh and we did not spell our own that's 5292 03:00:07,910 --> 03:00:07,359 how it's spelled yeah so that's how you 5293 03:00:10,950 --> 03:00:07,920 spell 5294 03:00:13,349 --> 03:00:10,960 thursday thirsty thursday 5295 03:00:14,070 --> 03:00:13,359 uh dude we have so much to catch up on 5296 03:00:15,429 --> 03:00:14,080 with every 5297 03:00:17,110 --> 03:00:15,439 all of our listeners with the 5298 03:00:19,030 --> 03:00:17,120 documentary man we just got back from 5299 03:00:19,750 --> 03:00:19,040 sedona i mean really quick before we hop 5300 03:00:23,510 --> 03:00:19,760 off like 5301 03:00:26,630 --> 03:00:25,030 so i mean if you've been a listener for 5302 03:00:28,710 --> 03:00:26,640 a while for the past year 5303 03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:28,720 or so uh we've been working on a 5304 03:00:33,349 --> 03:00:30,080 documentary and 5305 03:00:36,550 --> 03:00:33,359 dude i am so excited it's 5306 03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:36,560 pretty good like what i don't want 5307 03:00:46,389 --> 03:00:44,150 yeah so the trailer is gonna come out 5308 03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:46,399 soon we gotta figure out some logistics 5309 03:00:50,950 --> 03:00:48,960 uh and then we're gonna just blast it so 5310 03:00:53,030 --> 03:00:50,960 guys if you like our show 5311 03:00:55,230 --> 03:00:53,040 yeah if you want to show us support uh 5312 03:00:56,469 --> 03:00:55,240 buy us some buy a t-shirt on ufo 5313 03:00:58,150 --> 03:00:56,479 garagepodcast.com 5314 03:00:59,590 --> 03:00:58,160 subscribe to us on youtube i think like 5315 03:01:00,469 --> 03:00:59,600 they're not really forty dollars by the 5316 03:01:04,070 --> 03:01:00,479 way they're not yeah 5317 03:01:04,550 --> 03:01:04,080 they're 39.99 and they are actually made 5318 03:01:08,309 --> 03:01:04,560 out of 5319 03:01:09,269 --> 03:01:08,319 alien silk straight from an alien's butt 5320 03:01:10,950 --> 03:01:09,279 i don't know if you guys knew this but 5321 03:01:12,630 --> 03:01:10,960 that's how aliens make silk it's from 5322 03:01:16,710 --> 03:01:12,640 their butt yeah 5323 03:01:19,750 --> 03:01:16,720 so it's called butt silk but so 5324 03:01:21,670 --> 03:01:19,760 but got oh but uh yeah 5325 03:01:23,510 --> 03:01:21,680 thanks for everybody that's here that 5326 03:01:24,870 --> 03:01:23,520 didn't know us uh a week ago thank you 5327 03:01:26,070 --> 03:01:24,880 for sticking around thanks for not 5328 03:01:27,269 --> 03:01:26,080 unsubscribing and 5329 03:01:29,510 --> 03:01:27,279 and if you're here and you're not 5330 03:01:31,269 --> 03:01:29,520 subscribed hey 5331 03:01:32,550 --> 03:01:31,279 why don't you do the would you click the 5332 03:01:34,790 --> 03:01:32,560 button go for it the button 5333 03:01:35,830 --> 03:01:34,800 it's it's right it's right right there 5334 03:01:37,590 --> 03:01:35,840 here click the button 5335 03:01:39,830 --> 03:01:37,600 that'd be cool because you know the more 5336 03:01:40,389 --> 03:01:39,840 subscriber subscribers we get the more 5337 03:01:42,950 --> 03:01:40,399 we 5338 03:01:43,670 --> 03:01:42,960 uh get to talk to more people and share 5339 03:01:46,070 --> 03:01:43,680 knowledge 5340 03:01:47,510 --> 03:01:46,080 and get feedback we're always looking to 5341 03:01:49,269 --> 03:01:47,520 improve the show and 5342 03:01:51,190 --> 03:01:49,279 also it's just fun to have people in the 5343 03:01:51,990 --> 03:01:51,200 chat and all the shenanigans that 5344 03:01:54,630 --> 03:01:52,000 happens 5345 03:01:55,910 --> 03:01:54,640 um so yeah yeah dude it's been a great 5346 03:01:58,790 --> 03:01:55,920 time 5347 03:01:59,349 --> 03:01:58,800 we love you guys man hey hey we love you 5348 03:02:00,950 --> 03:01:59,359 man 5349 03:02:02,790 --> 03:02:00,960 hey don't be worried about we love you 5350 03:02:07,110 --> 03:02:02,800 we love you except by our love 5351 03:02:10,469 --> 03:02:07,120 you love love me back love me i love 5352 03:02:11,030 --> 03:02:10,479 we love we love you except accept our 5353 03:02:12,389 --> 03:02:11,040 love 5354 03:02:13,990 --> 03:02:12,399 and thank you for hanging out with us 5355 03:02:14,309 --> 03:02:14,000 spending your night with us i mean come 5356 03:02:16,230 --> 03:02:14,319 on 5357 03:02:18,070 --> 03:02:16,240 like time is the most valuable thing you 5358 03:02:19,910 --> 03:02:18,080 have and the fact that you spent it with 5359 03:02:22,389 --> 03:02:19,920 us tonight means a lot so 5360 03:02:23,990 --> 03:02:22,399 thank you well that was really 5361 03:02:26,870 --> 03:02:24,000 sentimental i mean it was dude 5362 03:02:28,469 --> 03:02:26,880 it was very i felt i felt it i felt it i 5363 03:02:29,349 --> 03:02:28,479 don't know how i feel about it it might 5364 03:02:32,230 --> 03:02:29,359 be this beer 5365 03:02:32,870 --> 03:02:32,240 in the wine that's the wine i don't know 5366 03:02:35,910 --> 03:02:32,880 all right guys 5367 03:02:39,269 --> 03:02:35,920 well let's let's hop off um uh 5368 03:02:41,190 --> 03:02:39,279 uh check out uh native native texan 5369 03:02:43,750 --> 03:02:41,200 and uh we're not sponsored by them it's 5370 03:02:47,269 --> 03:02:43,760 just what i'm drinking tonight 5371 03:02:52,230 --> 03:02:50,469 also box wine they didn't they redid 5372 03:02:54,150 --> 03:02:52,240 their packaging which is [\h__\h] i think 5373 03:02:57,590 --> 03:02:54,160 i like it i don't like it it's very much 5374 03:03:00,550 --> 03:02:57,600 it uh it's uh it's a more suburban 5375 03:03:02,230 --> 03:03:00,560 lifestyle uh yeah it's more it's more uh 5376 03:03:03,670 --> 03:03:02,240 the soccer moms are drawn to it 5377 03:03:06,950 --> 03:03:03,680 they're actually drawn to the bright 5378 03:03:09,110 --> 03:03:06,960 reds right uh well 5379 03:03:11,349 --> 03:03:09,120 i also have this pattern in a in a short 5380 03:03:13,110 --> 03:03:11,359 dress that i usually wear in the summer 5381 03:03:15,190 --> 03:03:13,120 months but since it's been so 5382 03:03:17,349 --> 03:03:15,200 rainy and muggy i can't bring myself to 5383 03:03:18,950 --> 03:03:17,359 wear it so i i went ahead and bought 5384 03:03:21,349 --> 03:03:18,960 this box the wine 5385 03:03:22,070 --> 03:03:21,359 and it does remind me of good times so 5386 03:03:27,910 --> 03:03:22,080 it does 5387 03:03:36,469 --> 03:03:30,320 well do that you know 5388 03:03:39,030 --> 03:03:36,479 [Music] 5389 03:03:40,389 --> 03:03:39,040 this has been another episode of ufo 5390 03:03:42,309 --> 03:03:40,399 garage